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Yup! Burgess IS the ONLY Penguin just as Julie Newmar is the ONLY Catwoman. Even though their performances were on a "campy" TV show they are still today the best performances of those characters that all others are judged against. That's saying something.Leave a comment:
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^ Have to say the same about Batman 66's Penguin--Burgess Meredith.
Absolutely perfect casting IMO & I was mesmerized as a kid by the film version, where he was running the show (& that submarine
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I've not been thrilled with any screen adaptation of Batman, but I do think, having rewatched the Burton films recently after a long hiatus, that they hold up surprisingly well. The Nolan films are just as flawed as the earlier ones, only in a different way.Leave a comment:
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There is only ONE Riddler....Frank Gorshin...Accept no substitutes!Leave a comment:
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I hope when you say back then...you mean the 70's...because that's the last time he was thin...lol.
Also...you would've needed a ton of electric shavers in prepping Williams for the part...as the dude is hairier than an POTA gorilla solider...
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Absolutely Ledger deserved the Best Supporting Actor Academy Award...whether you liked or disliked him as the Joker...his role was mesmerizing and unforgettable.Leave a comment:
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I'd say typically, Actors DON'T win Academy Awards for Comic book movies. So no, he probably wouldn't have won had he not died.
That said, I feel he should have one the Academy Award either way...because he was absolutely MAGNIFICENT in the role! Heath totally owned the part like nobody ever will again!
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Agreed x 4..Romero- an Amazing actor could have easily Been the greatest version of the joker because he was an outstanding actor in his day.
Nicholson- Fun and dark the scene with the fried Dead guy is The Joker!!
Hammill- When i read the Joker this is the voice i hear....nailed it perfectly
Ledger- an outstanding actor who played a crackhead with clown makeup on....would have made a great horror character in another movie but it ain't the Joker...Brandon Lee was a better Joker in the crow....
I wasn't impressed with Ledger at all. He played a very convincing psychotic villain, and it was interesting figuring out how the 'wheels' worked in his head for his justifications, but he was no Joker.
I'm not just talking a lack of flamboyance here; I'm talking style, methods, poise. Ledger portrayed Joker not as some 'master villain' that we know and admire, but as a conniving street thug. Which is fine if that's the artistic license film-makers wish to take style-wise, but it also limits the potential for a truely memorable villain. Essentially, I'm agreeing with Werewolf's rationale.
The Joker most of us know delights in being over-the-top when committing crimes and confounding Batman, which both Nicholson and Mark Hammill really do well.Leave a comment:
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In my opinion, I don't think so.Since we're sort of on a tangent here regarding the different takes on The Joker, my question to you all is this: Would Heath Ledger's [who, when it was announced he was playing The Joker, created all kinds of controversy amongst comics afficianados), be nearly as "revered" if Ledger hadn't offed himself?
I remember when it happened. His death brought out the absolute worst in a lot of people online. There were groups of people that built him and his portrayal of the Joker up to some type of morbid almost mythical pseudo religious state. I found it creepy and cult like. Twisted idol worship taken to the ugliest lunatic extreme. It made my skin crawl. I avoided the movie for a long time because of it. I still cannot stand the "Why so serious?" meme.
He was a good actor and played a believable psychopath in The Dark Knight. The character was a psychopath in dirty smeared clown make up. It worked in context of the "Nolenverse" but the character wasn't the Joker to me. Again, he was a good actor and good in the part in context of the "Nolenverse." But without the tragedy of his death I don't think his portrayal would be built up to this near mythical state.Leave a comment:
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Romero- an Amazing actor could have easily Been the greatest version of the joker because he was an outstanding actor in his day.
Caesar Romero - Maybe he wasn't as homicidal as the current Joker is, but he nailed the Joker's persona to the wall.
Jaaaaack - He DID nail the Joker's theatricality and homicidal tendicies all in one fell swoop. Plus, he was charismatic and uttered the immortal line "This town needs an enema!"
Mark Hammill - Captures ALL the charactistics of The Joker in just his voice! Who'd've guessed it from a Jedi Knight...?
Heath Ledger - Again, a good psychopath, but not really a Joker-y psychopath.
Nicholson- Fun and dark the scene with the fried Dead guy is The Joker!!
Hammill- When i read the Joker this is the voice i hear....nailed it perfectly
Ledger- an outstanding actor who played a crackhead with clown makeup on....would have made a great horror character in another movie but it ain't the Joker...Brandon Lee was a better Joker in the crow....
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No, He wouldn't have Won the Academy Award. That was the Academy basically honoring a talented actor with the award....had Nicholson died when he did the Joker he would have won also......Since we're sort of on a tangent here regarding the different takes on The Joker, my question to you all is this: Would Heath Ledger's [who, when it was announced he was playing The Joker, created all kinds of controversy amongst comics afficianados), be nearly as "revered" if Ledger hadn't offed himself? I mean, don't get me wrong, I liked his villain okay and, yes, he was properly psychotic and realistically so, but was he THE Joker? NIMHO....Leave a comment:
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Since we're sort of on a tangent here regarding the different takes on The Joker, my question to you all is this: Would Heath Ledger's [who, when it was announced he was playing The Joker, created all kinds of controversy amongst comics afficianados), be nearly as "revered" if Ledger hadn't offed himself? I mean, don't get me wrong, I liked his villain okay and, yes, he was properly psychotic and realistically so, but was he THE Joker? NIMHO....
I think, in order of preferences, my Joker's would have to be:
Caesar Romero - Maybe he wasn't as homicidal as the current Joker is, but he nailed the Joker's persona to the wall.
Jaaaaack - He DID nail the Joker's theatricality and homicidal tendicies all in one fell swoop. Plus, he was charismatic and uttered the immortal line "This town needs an enema!"
Mark Hammill - Captures ALL the charactistics of The Joker in just his voice! Who'd've guessed it from a Jedi Knight...?
Heath Ledger - Again, a good psychopath, but not really a Joker-y psychopath.Leave a comment:
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No Mames Guey LOL! let me have a moment!

This is the Joker old Joker but still the Joker....

This is a NY city style Crackhead or a fired clown from Ringling bros who sells sea shells by the seashore isn't that shwell.......
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