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  • hartley0
    Repatriator
    • Oct 14, 2008
    • 321

    #31
    Originally posted by samurainoir
    I'm not sure how the Youtube version compares, but if you are ok downloading TV shows you can download - what I think is - the whole thing via Xtorrent (mac). Just enter "Ditko BBC" into the search engine and you'll see a couple versions. I'm currently downloading it and will let you all know how it looks!

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    • Mego Superboy Prime
      Career Member
      • Nov 27, 2009
      • 905

      #32
      Originally posted by Janson
      Hey man,
      I was at that event, didn't have special passes though.
      Had to catch the first 430 am train into Penn and wait on line for 5 hours @ Jacob Javitz (1 outside & 4 in the basement) to be fifth on line, they only gave out 100 tickets to the event in 2008. And I would do it again because I got the chance to thank one of my big heroes in person, have to find the pics from it. Stan was amazing and he did make everyone in the room feel special. But just because he is a nice man, a genius, and none of us will probably ever accomplish what he did in his lifetime, doesn't mean he didn't make a mistake for 30 years by not sharing the credit with his co-creators.
      Regardless he gave me over 30 years of happiness with his lingo and snappy banter which always stuck in my head just as much as any Jack Kirby drawing did. So I can never hold anything against the man.
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      • samurainoir
        Eloquent Member
        • Dec 26, 2006
        • 18758

        #33
        Originally posted by Mego Superboy Prime
        The Bendis interview was great, he said it perfect. Stan Lee was a genius in so many ways. And if Ditko doesn't care, then leave it at that.

        I hung with Stan Lee back in 2008 at the New York Comic Con. With my production company, I had press passes to a special exclusive event he was at and there wasn't many people there. Stan hung with us for over an hour talking and was telling people we were "His kind of people" it was great! I even kissed him on the cheek!! And the great thing was that he didn't even have to stick around and yet he did. Must've been in a good mood that night. Here's a pic of us (I'm the one with the Green Lantern hat).



        Blue Meanie can say what he wants and his BOLD threats to an 80 year old man that has accomplished more than he ever will in life makes me laugh. Be glad Stan was around because he gave you all your Marvel Mego's you covet so much. Sure Stan is on his high horse and what he has done in this life will last forever and for that he should be proud. What have you done Meanie? Who is going to remember you? I'm listening...
        Bendis does sum it up beautifully. Ditko really does stick to his guns, even at 80 years old with money dangling in front of him, and has made his intentions really clear. It would be difficult to argue with someone who does see the world in such stark black and white lenses... imagine what it would be like to have a conversation with Rorschach!

        It's terrific that you got to meet The Man himself, I'm sure many of us would have loved to have that kind of quality time with Stan Lee... if only for our inner 8 year old.

        Although I do not personally believe that the eye for an eye approach to Stan is right, I do believe that BM is entitled to his opinion... there is certainly ample evidence of Stan hogging the spotlight. I also think it's a tad unfair to turn it around into a personal jab at Blue Meanie. Berto and bro' Tom is good peeps, and tone of conversation is easily misconstrued without the face to face nuances... I'm sure this would be quite a lively and friendly discussion were we all sitting around the Mego Suite with brews/pops and snacks (Tom is ridiculously good at making sure folks ain't thirsty).


        Anyways, Stan's doublespeak is pretty much commonplace these days and oft repeated... check out the Kevin Smith interview where Smith pretty much leads Lee in a friendlier direction than Ross' harder press.

        I would speculate that based on his settlement with Marvel after they broke his contract in the nineties, his response to that line of questioning has been Lawyered up and massaged by PR people. It would appear that probably is the only response he's allowed to make that has enough ambiguity to not get his *** dragged into court by Marvel. But again, this is purely conjecture on my part.
        Last edited by samurainoir; Apr 23, '11, 1:16 PM.
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        • samurainoir
          Eloquent Member
          • Dec 26, 2006
          • 18758

          #34
          the Kevin Smith interview
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clospG_R0Vg
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          • Janson
            Museum Super Collector
            • Jan 11, 2010
            • 155

            #35
            Originally posted by Mego Superboy Prime
            Regardless he gave me over 30 years of happiness with his lingo and snappy banter which always stuck in my head just as much as any Jack Kirby drawing did. So I can never hold anything against the man.
            Man I'm right there with you but I think you might be missing my point. I think we both love what Stan did, and what he gave us. He is Stan Lee and no one can take his contribution to the medium away from us. He is still a human being and not perfect. If you choose to view him as such that is fine with me.

            Stan Lee gave us impressionable kids a golden rule to live by, a particularly famous one at that, "With great power, comes great responsibility." Unfortunately, with Stan's great power he chose to be irresponsible and for me it cheapens the source.
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            • Mego Superboy Prime
              Career Member
              • Nov 27, 2009
              • 905

              #36
              Originally posted by Janson
              Man I'm right there with you but I think you might be missing my point. I think we both love what Stan did, and what he gave us. He is Stan Lee and no one can take his contribution to the medium away from us. He is still a human being and not perfect. If you choose to view him as such that is fine with me.

              Stan Lee gave us impressionable kids a golden rule to live by, a particularly famous one at that, "With great power, comes great responsibility." Unfortunately, with Stan's great power he chose to be irresponsible and for me it cheapens the source.
              Hey, it could be worse. Stan Lee could've been Bob Kane...
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              • samurainoir
                Eloquent Member
                • Dec 26, 2006
                • 18758

                #37
                Originally posted by Mego Superboy Prime
                Hey, it could be worse. Stan Lee could've been Bob Kane...
                To DC's credit, I believe in the last few years they started giving Jerry Robinson compensation for his contributions to Batman. Better late than never, although in the case of the late Bill Finger, there really wasn't ever anything to redress that injustice.

                Robinson and Kane were in dispute over who created Robin and Joker, but even by Kane's own accounts Finger was the crucial co-creator of many of the trappings of the Batman mythos.

                From a strictly legal standpoint, you can't fault Kane for being a better businessman (Finger and Robinson were technically subcontractors), but in light of the last fifty years of ridiculous success that Batman has had from a financial standpoint, it is pretty morally outrageous. Unlike Seigel and Shuster, when Kane was finally drummed out, at least he kept reaping a percentage... particularly during the merchandising Batmanias of '66 and '89.
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                • babycyclops
                  Career Member
                  • Jul 9, 2010
                  • 823

                  #38
                  Just watched it, and have to say it was excellent. Thanks for posting, and for the recommendation on the Ditko book. I've been trying to decide which one of the Ditko books/compilations to get.

                  I remember reading that Moore was going to use a bunch of Charlton characters that DC had gained the rights to, but in the end DC decided against the idea, and so he created all new characters for Watchman. The Ditko-Rorschach connection is so great! Even more so for hearing Moore describe it himself.

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                  • samurainoir
                    Eloquent Member
                    • Dec 26, 2006
                    • 18758

                    #39
                    ^^^
                    There was an essay about that in the original Watchmen Leather Bound edition (one of my most prized possessions), which was fortunately reprinted in the Absolute edition (also recommended).

                    Dick Giordano originally came to DC from Charlton Comics, and had a fondness for the characters, so he had DC purchase them. After reading Watchmen, I went back and tried to track down back issues and was quite surprised to learn that Ted Kord Blue Beetle and The Question actually only had a handful of issues... even including the Charlton Bullseye stuff.

                    Denny O'Neil's version was of course a complete reversal of everything Ditko's Question was, but I do have a real fondness for the character in all incarnations. Including Rorschach, Renee Montoya and arguably Mr A.


                    But I Digress... Giordano basically opened it up for DC creators to pitch their Charlton concepts (at one point I remember reading about their plans to do it as a weekly anthology like the weekly version of Action Comics eventually attempted). Because Moore's pitch would have basically left the character unusable afterwards, Giordano suggested that they create all new analogue characters. Moore was able to push the concept even further freed from the Charlton characters and the rest his history.
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