Captain America: Reborn

[samurainoir]

Ok so however Rogers comes back, what happens to Barnes? he retires? maybe he becomes Ronin and we see the return of the original hawkeye?

That would be funny given how much a hot potato the Ronin identity has been. Although I guess it was created so that whoever needs it can use it. The "Nomad" name is also a possibility.

I'm guessing that Brubaker would probably love a chance to write a Bucky/Winter Soldier ongoing series no matter what they end up calling him.

We also haven't seen Cap and Winter Soldier/Bucky as any kind of reunited team, so I would imagine that would be an avenue to explore once Steve is back.

[Earth 2 Chris]

The Onslaught Universe Steve wandering into 616 (boobs and all)?

As long as he keeps his shirt and pants on...

Chris

[ctc]

>and a liefeld creation...

That can't be a Liefield character.... her fingers look like they work and her mouth is closed.

>What Marvel runs a serious risk of doing is revealing a subplot so unoriginal that readers will feel they were milked out of alot of cash

Oh yeah. Like the frozen Cap found in the Avengers wasn't the ral one.... but an alien energy being that adopted his form after finding the REAL one frozen.... Heck, maybe they'll use EVERYONE'S ideas and four different ones will show up.

>This in turn imperils the movie,

Normally I'd agree; but I don't know if the comic's readership is high enough to make a dent in the pool of perspective film viewers.

>what happens to Barnes? he retires?

He gets all bitter, takes up a similar persona, falls in with a crowd of radicals, eventually realizes the error of his ways and becomes Cap's new partner/ally?

Don C.

[Bionic Joe]

Ummn would you believe that Steve Rogers is really a TIMELORD

[Timothy2251]

I'm with MIB41 - Betcha it was a SHIELD LMD (Life Model Decoy) of Cap that got whacked, so Steve could go undercover and expose the Red Skull or HYDRA or something.

[samurainoir]

Talk about a non-event eh? Just goes to show you can't go out and manufacture something like this. Usually it has more to do with a slow news day when it comes to grabbing headlines in the mainstream. Or if you are going to crank up the hype machine, it had better be worth it to the fans given that Steve Rogers coming back eventually wasn't going to be any kind of surprise to a jaded audience who has seen everyone from Jean Grey to Bucky to Aunt May to Superman to Hal Jordan to Jason Todd to Barry Allan die and come back.

Did anyone actually go to the comic shop on Monday to pick up Cap #600?

[The Toyroom]

So...what'd everyone think of issue #1? I felt like I was reading/watching a rehash of an episode from LOST.

[Riffster]

So he's lost in time? not dead? and is in his old body? Just checking I understand the horible story

[johnnystorm]

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed...this is the best idea they could come up with? Why not just have Mephisto erase everyone's memories and change...oh.

I expected better from Ed Brubaker...I think he's just got too much on his plate right now and he's wearing thin on creativity. Of course, he could also just be following Quesada's dictates. Either way, a convoluted spy switcheroo plot ala Shield would have played out better than a time travel scenario.

[thunderbolt]

I figured it would be revealed that the Cap killed was a Life Model Decoy from SHIELD and the real Steve was hanging out with Nick Fury somewhere.

[samurainoir]

I'm a little disappointed they pulled Bryan Hitch from the Fantastic Four finale issue for this.

As awesome as it is, we've already seen his widescreen WW2 Captain America already. I'm hoping they make better use of Hitch if this is going to be a "stuck in time" scenario.

It doesn't change the fact that I want to see Hitch drawing the FF kicking the Marquis' butt after all that build-up to it.

[Timothy2251]

I figured it would be revealed that the Cap killed was a Life Model Decoy from SHIELD and the real Steve was hanging out with Nick Fury somewhere.

Bah. Too logical. It would've used established, in continuity, SHIELD tech, and would've supposed that Fury anticipated an assassination attempt on someone's part, and would've smuggled the real Cap out after his arrest. It would also have lead to several exciting stories of Cap's life undercover, maybe setting the stage for Norman Osborn's ultimate fall after Dark Reign, before taking up his shield and costume again in a triumphant return.

No, better the bullets-that-alter-time-and-relative-dimensions-in-space. Doctor Who swears by 'em. You can get 'em at your local gun shop, next to the amnesia bullets from the Wolverine film.

All this talk of bullets of late has me wondering if Marvel's been co-opted by the NRA.

[MIB41]

Soooooooooo, let me get this straight - The Steve Rogers we saw shot WAS Steve Rogers? And the Red Skull, in effect, "saved" him by pulling him from the past and placing him in he present where he is technically "stuck"? Did I get that right?

[haggis]

I like Bucky Cap. Like him even more after reading Cap #600 and Reborn #1. On the lame side.

[The Toyroom]

Soooooooooo, let me get this straight - The Steve Rogers we saw shot WAS Steve Rogers? And the Red Skull, in effect, "saved" him by pulling him from the past and placing him in he present where he is technically "stuck"? Did I get that right?

Yeah something along those lines....not sure why he was "saved" by the Red Skull but I'm sure we'll find out....