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**jds1911a1** · Dec 26, '08, 8:53 AM

I like Gary Oldman as Gordon but only as it relates to the BATMAN YEAR ONE comic the new series is so based in

**ctc** · Dec 26, '08, 8:55 AM

>he's not really A Joker .... Not counting the suit and make-up he's just an ordinary nut job .......... I want more of a crazy clown connection ...

That's how I felt about Nickolson's Joker as well. I'd love to see someone play him like the old Caesar Romero Joker, but in more consequential and dangerous situations.

>Batman IS gadgets,

This was the point that killed it for a friend of mine; that Batman in this film was all about gadgets, and didn't really achieve anything of his own accord.

>The Batpod (motorcycle) .......... This thing would not work in the city

It worked pretty good in the old Judge Dredd comic....

Don C.

**The Toyroom** · Dec 26, '08, 8:56 AM

Originally posted by type1kirk

4. Gordon ... Does anyone else think this actor just don't look the part of Gordon ?

Actually, he's pretty spot-on to the young Lt. Gordon who was featured in "Batman:Year One". If you're comparing him to the older comic book Commissioner or the TV doofus portrayed by Neil Hamilton I can see your confusion.

**kingdom warrior** · Dec 26, '08, 10:17 AM

[QUOTE=type1kirk;245699]

1. Batman and Bruce Wayne ....... I don't like this guy ... Yes, he's our hero, but he's not a likable person ...
I can never understand how newer versions of Batman are so popular considering how unlikable he is ... Is it today's society of loving ******s as their heroes ? ...

A: Bruce is in Character as an Unlikeable rich spoiled Socialite. This way there is no association with him and Batman.....

1-B. There really isn't anyone in this movie that I cared about ... I couldn't care less if any of them die.

A:Morgan Freeman's Character Lucious is my favorite they way they added him as basically Bruce Wayne's Q.

2. Joker ...... Strangley, I do like this Joker ..... The only probablem with this version of Joker is he's not really A Joker .... Not counting the suit and make-up he's just an ordinary nut job .......... I want more of a crazy clown connection ...

A: There really is no definitive Joker as over the years every generation has had their version. 60's Joker Although IMO is the Best.

3. Harvey's girlfriend ........ I don't believe Harvey would be in love with this woman ... He could get any chick he wants ..
number one, she's isn't all that pretty.

A: This is Just in the casting Rachel character was very pretty in the first movie. Katie Holmes is hard act to follow in the looks dept. This rachel was the better Actress.

4. Gordon ... Does anyone else think this actor just don't look the part of Gordon ?

A: Yes he's Dead on to The Comicbook. best version

5. Gadgets ........ Batman IS gadgets, I understand that but this leaves me with a question .......

A: I think sometimes the gadgets become too over the top in Batman movies. I think they did a good balance in focusing on story and not overblown gadget use.

6.. The Batpod (motorcycle) .......... This thing would not work in the city .... It would take you 2 miles of curve just to turn 90 degrees.
The fat front tire looks cool but is totally impractical.
Was this thing designed by Fisher-Price ?

A: Sell Toys,Toys and More Toys

Glad to see you gave it a try. From what i understand I know you're a Fan of the Classic TV Batman

**goldenryan** · Dec 26, '08, 10:40 AM

it's no use t1k complains about everything.

**SUP-Ronin** · Dec 26, '08, 10:46 AM

Also with the motorcycle, remember that foremost it is part of the batmobile, and the fact that it can "transform" part of it self into the motorcycle is just a bonus or secondary function using batmobile parts. On it's own, the batcycle would probably have looked different, and more sleek. I agree with you're comment about the turning radius.
No problems with Gorden.
I loved this interpretation of the Joker.
Batman is still just a human, he needs the gadgets, Seems like they took a bit more of a "How would this work if it really existed" point of view.
I dig Michael Caine, as Alfred, and Morgan Freeman.
Dent did a good job, but I agree, I didn't really give a crud about him.
I just don't care for Maggie Jyllenhall, why didn't they keep Katy Holmes?? I forget, cause Tom was shooting someplace else and wouldnt' let her??

Overall I can easily forgive the small things with this movie, considering how badly they can screw something like this up. I am pretty excited about this version of Bats and look forward to more.

**Mikey** · Dec 26, '08, 11:12 AM

I also thought his cowl looked weird.

There were many scenes that looked like it was on crooked.

It also looked too big and bulbus on the head.

I think this was the "new designed" one that was suppose to be part helmet.

**goldenryan** · Dec 26, '08, 11:44 AM

as much as i loved the dark knight i like the tv, and even the 1989 batmobile alot better than the batmobile in this movie.

**toys2cool** · Dec 26, '08, 12:45 PM

I thought the same thing about the chick

**Mikey** · Dec 26, '08, 1:32 PM

Originally posted by toys2cool

I thought the same thing about the chick

I read on the internet she's in her late 20's.

The way she looked, I thought she was in her mid 40's

Also, I dunno what's up with her partial pig nose.

It looks like she had nose-job gone wrong.

**thunderbolt** · Dec 26, '08, 2:30 PM

Don't worry about the "chick" she got blowed up real good and won't be back.

As for Gordon, he's dead on perfect. Oldman nailed the part.

Joker. I really dig this version and the shabby look to him.

**toys2cool** · Dec 26, '08, 3:13 PM

Originally posted by type1kirk

I read on the internet she's in her late 20's.

The way she looked, I thought she was in her mid 40's

Also, I dunno what's up with her partial pig nose.

It looks like she had nose-job gone wrong.

yeah I think her brother looks better

Jake Gyllenhaal is the other guy in Broke back mountain with Heath Ledger

and she is a decent actress,but man you could've gotten a real hot babe to play that part

**Steeler80** · Dec 26, '08, 3:26 PM

I really thought this was a terrific film. Ledger has received heaps of praise for his portrayal of the Joke and I think it's deserved. And I agree that Batman is unlikable but I think that's part of the character, certainly part of the storyline for this movie (hence all the "He'd the hero Gotham needs. He can take it" stuff at the end [which was a bit overdone]). As everybody knows, Batman came out of the pulp tradition and there were lots of unlikable heroes there (The Shadow, The Spider).

**Earth 2 Chris** · Dec 29, '08, 2:24 PM

I don't agree that Batman is unlikeable. I will say in this movie he is trapped inside this creation he made in the first film. With Rachel's death and then him taking the blame for Two-Face's crimes he now has no hope of a normal life at all, just Batman and the public Bruce Wayne. The real Bruce is somewhat in-between. Only Alfred (and maybe Lucius to a point) really know him. To me, this makes him very sympathetic.

I will agree that Gylenhall isn't the most attractive actress in Hollywood. I think we are so used to movie love interests being drop-dead gorgeous (even if the male lead isn't) that we find it hard to accept her as the object of affection to both handsome Bale and Eckhart. She did do a nice job with the part though. More believable than Katie Holmes in the first film.

Gordon is dead-on the modern comic portrayl. Love Oldman in that role. Glad he got so much more to do this time.

Chris

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