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  • kingdom warrior
    OH JES!!
    • Jul 21, 2005
    • 12478

    #16
    Originally posted by Azrak
    Spawn = Spider-man with a cape? Seriously?

    They've both done things I love, and things I hate. Miller runs about 3-to-1 in the "things I hate" category. I can hide from McFarlane; Miller is everywhere.
    Draw Black spiderman add Red cape + Punishers arsenal and Batman's attitude = Spawn....

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    • EMCE Hammer
      Moderation Engineer
      • Aug 14, 2003
      • 25759

      #17
      Originally posted by kingdom warrior
      Draw Black spiderman add Red cape + Punishers arsenal and Batman's attitude = Spawn....
      I see what you're saying now - I thought you meant characterization. Everybody knows Mcfarlane ripped off Cat Damon's Wrathdemon for Spawn's look:-)

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      • kingdom warrior
        OH JES!!
        • Jul 21, 2005
        • 12478

        #18
        Originally posted by Azrak
        I see what you're saying now - I thought you meant characterization. Everybody knows Mcfarlane ripped off Cat Damon's Wrathdemon for Spawn's look:-)
        LOL!!!!!! yeah man cat should beat him down

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        • kingdom warrior
          OH JES!!
          • Jul 21, 2005
          • 12478

          #19
          Originally posted by Megospidey
          I completely disagree...I have always thought he drew one of the BEST Mary Jane Watsons. She never looked so good IMO.

          I do agree with you that McFarlane was sloppy as an artist at times. Especially looking back on it.

          But at the time, when I was reading Spiderman in the late 80's, early 90's...McFarlane was so different from anything I had seen...I was mesmerized.
          Yes true. McFarlane captured many people's attention at the time because no one drew Spiderman like him at the time. He drew his inspiration from Ditko's Spiderman.Using Blacks in the costume. Plus he drew Spidey doing poses that no one had ever imagined him to do and again his layouts were different.

          Romita sr. for me is the Ultimate Mary Jane artist...

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          • Brue
            User without title
            • Sep 29, 2005
            • 4246

            #20
            Aren't they the same person?

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            • Megospidey
              Museum Webslinger
              • Jul 26, 2006
              • 5305

              #21
              Originally posted by kingdom warrior
              Romita sr. for me is the Ultimate Mary Jane artist...

              Yes, Romita Sr. is the standard, and I love his artwork. But McFarlane's MJ is hubba hubba

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              • Megospidey
                Museum Webslinger
                • Jul 26, 2006
                • 5305

                #22
                Originally posted by Type3Toys
                I hate McFarlane. His squggly-insect looking Spiderman art ia horrible.
                Now John, it's not horrible. Different for sure - especially from Romita Sr., the Spiderman artist-god. But not horrible.

                If it had been horrible, he would never have gotten the job as Spiderman artist in the first place.

                I love Romita, and he will always be tops (very closely follows Ditko) when it comes to Spider-man art. Andru was great too...

                McFarlane came along in '87 when I was 20 years old and reading Spider-man as an adult. He drew spidey in poses/shots I had never seen before. And do not forget...he gave us Venom - the BEST spidey villain other than Green Goblin.

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                • Earth 2 Chris
                  Verbose Member
                  • Mar 7, 2004
                  • 32924

                  #23
                  McFarlane's Spidey was a great shot in the arm. David Micheline's scripts were good too. Didn't care much for Todd's solo "Spider-Man" title. He was ahead of his time, having a one issue tale stretched out over 6.

                  Chris
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                  • thunderbolt
                    Hi Ernie!!!
                    • Feb 15, 2004
                    • 34211

                    #24
                    Originally posted by kingdom warrior
                    Draw Black spiderman add Red cape + Punishers arsenal and Batman's attitude = Spawn....
                    you forgot Ghost Rider's schtick, too.
                    You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                    • kingdom warrior
                      OH JES!!
                      • Jul 21, 2005
                      • 12478

                      #25
                      Originally posted by thunderbolt
                      you forgot Ghost Rider's schtick, too.
                      Hahah! Forgot about that one!

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                      • kingdom warrior
                        OH JES!!
                        • Jul 21, 2005
                        • 12478

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Megospidey
                        Yes, Romita Sr. is the standard, and I love his artwork. But McFarlane's MJ is hubba hubba
                        LOL!!!! are you having thoughts of Peter's wife...lol! Oh wait never mind that never happened....

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                        • The Bat
                          Batman Fanatic
                          • Jul 14, 2002
                          • 13412

                          #27
                          I still like Frank Miller for His early works...DareDevil, TDKR, and Batman:Year One.

                          I also like Sin City.
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                          • The Toyroom
                            The Packaging King
                            • Dec 31, 2004
                            • 16653

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Type3Toys
                            I hate McFarlane. His squggly-insect looking Spiderman art ia horrible.
                            Everybody's Spidey can't look like Romita's, John
                            Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                            • The Toyroom
                              The Packaging King
                              • Dec 31, 2004
                              • 16653

                              #29
                              As far as McFarlane's Spidey art, I consider it an improvement over the Infinity Inc. stuff he was doing at DC prior...lots of distracting layouts and goobledegook cluttering up the pages.
                              Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                              • Raydeen1
                                Persistent Member
                                • May 23, 2008
                                • 1036

                                #30
                                I don't get the Frank Miller thing personally. I still haven't finished Dark Knight and I've had it for like 8 years. His DD art was pretty good but I hate the way he draws Batman and the story wasn't all that interesting to me or I would've finished it long ago. I have his 4 issue Wolverine mini series and I've read it once. I've read other comics dozens of times. He really does nothing for me. I did quite like 300 though.

                                Now Todd's art isn't my cup of tea but at the time it was innovative. Lines everywhere that make no sense is not great art. However, his stuff was very dynamic. His capes looked like they were alive. His characters all look different. Not like someone drew the same guy with a different mask or whatever. Case in point: There was a fellow on Hulk right around when Image was blasting through and comics went to hell who was quite good but man, Hulk and Banner and Jones all looked EXACTLY the same! Hulk looked like Superman but green. Made no sense to me.

                                Todd made an interesting back story for his character and set about marketing him. The man may not be the best artist or writer but he sure knows how to take something and run with it. He's got a hugely successful company and a lasting character. Not bad. I bought Spaen Batman in a discount bin and I'll always remember the sight of Spawn with a Batarang in his face. Not the best story but that was quite a sight to see.

                                For me, Todd wins. Eventhough I don't have much use for him.

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