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  • huedell
    Museum Ball Eater
    • Dec 31, 2003
    • 11069

    #16
    "I recently rewatched Superman III as part of the gigantuan Superman DVD boxset I got for Christmas and I was struck by the fact that it's not a very good Superman film, but it's a pretty decent Richard Pryor movie (if that makes sense)"

    I don't really feel its a good "Pryor movie" ---as Pryor's talents were quite
    dulled down to pass as "family fare"---but I certainly see what you're
    getting at.

    However, I feel SUPERMAN III is a very nicely made slapstick---or almost
    superhero satire/parody type vibe movie ---and Pryor, restrained as he was,
    deserves most of the credit for helping the movie achieve that quality

    I thnk Schumacher's movies were going for this, but I think they were poor
    even at that---all around mediocreness

    Actrually, I think SUPERMAN III is one of the best made movies in the
    superhero genre, because for the silliness it's trying to portray, it
    does better and is more consistent than all other goofy superhero
    movies in my opinion---and its Superman and Reeve and Pryor for
    cripes sakes. I'm also a fan of the other actors, old and new in
    that movie.

    SUPERMAN IV:QFP in comparison, takes a very serious subject and gives it
    virtually the same goofy treatment, treatment Lester started to inject as
    early as SUPERMAN II----anyway SIV:QFP fails on just as many levels as
    Schumacher's Batmans IMO ----just creepily bad, again only IMO

    And here's the greatest thing SUPERMAN III has to offer IMO...

    It's the ONLY superhero movie I've seen that has a good ending
    that ties all the movie plots in quite neatly and creatively

    As it goes...
    On the way to the Smallville Reunion Superman saves Smallville from a
    chemical plant meltdown, and as a result when Superman comes to visit
    Ricky on his b-day and the town finds about it, they give him a parade,
    which is an opportunity for the villains to drop off the "kryptonite"
    which turns Superman "bad" giving the villains time to build their
    supercomputer and when Superman finally recovers from the kryptonite
    effect, he uses "morphing acid" 6to destroy the supercomputer---acid
    which he discovered its properties at the chemical plant in the first place

    For a silly movie----that's quite a nice series of events

    The worst about Superman III IMO, is that it CONTINUES the downward
    plunge into comedy that was hardly there in the first movie...yeah...
    it was the same cast, and partially the same director of Superman II,
    but SIII was basically a different movie from the other two

    The fact that it strayed from the comic book? That stuff never bothers me
    for that alone....I'm not a religious comic guy.....but.....I do like movies quite
    a bit and inconsistency with vibes gets on my nerves a tad

    The fact that the Salkinds and afterwards Golan/Globus could never
    decide the mood of the Reeve version of the Superman franchise, well,
    that's what bothers me the most about SIII...but its not abig thing, and I still
    soldier on

    Alone from the screwy changes from film to film, SIII is a cute, solid little movie.
    Last edited by huedell; Jun 27, '07, 1:25 AM.
    "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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    • Hector
      el Hombre de Acero
      • May 19, 2003
      • 31852

      #17
      Originally posted by samurainoir
      I'm actually suprised that Supergirl doesn't show up on more of your lists.
      How can you possibly dislike this cuttie pie?






      But yes, good point, Supergirl (whether you like or not) always seems to go under the radar.
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      Originally posted by huedell
      "I recently rewatched Superman III as part of the gigantuan Superman DVD boxset I got for Christmas and I was struck by the fact that it's not a very good Superman film, but it's a pretty decent Richard Pryor movie (if that makes sense)"

      I don't really feel its a good "Pryor movie" ---as Pryor's talents were quite
      dulled down to pass as "family fare"---but I certainly see what you're
      getting at.

      However, I feel SUPERMAN III is a very nicely made slapstick---or almost
      superhero satire/parody type vibe movie ---and Pryor, restrained as he was,
      deserves most of the credit for helping the movie achieve that quality

      I thnk Schumacher's movies were going for this, but I think they were poor
      even at that---all around mediocreness

      Actrually, I think SUPERMAN III is one of the best made movies in the
      superhero genre, because for the silliness it's trying to portray, it
      does better and is more consistent than all other goofy superhero
      movies in my opinion---and its Superman and Reeve and Pryor for
      cripes sakes. I'm also a fan of the other actors, old and new in
      that movie.

      SUPERMAN IV:QFP in comparison, takes a very serious subject and gives it
      virtually the same goofy treatment, treatment Lester started to inject as
      early as SUPERMAN II----anyway SIV:QFP fails on just as many levels as
      Schumacher's Batmans IMO ----just creepily bad, again only IMO

      And here's the greatest thing SUPERMAN III has to offer IMO...

      It's the ONLY superhero movie I've seen that has a good ending
      that ties all the movie plots in quite neatly and creatively

      As it goes...
      On the way to the Smallville Reunion Superman saves Smallville from a
      chemical plant meltdown, and as a result when Superman comes to visit
      Ricky on his b-day and the town finds about it, they give him a parade,
      which is an opportunity for the villains to drop off the "kryptonite"
      which turns Superman "bad" giving the villains time to build their
      supercomputer and when Superman finally recovers from the kryptonite
      effect, he uses "morphing acid" 6to destroy the supercomputer---acid
      which he discovered its properties at the chemical plant in the first place

      For a silly movie----that's quite a nice series of events

      The worst about Superman III IMO, is that it CONTINUES the downward
      plunge into comedy that was hardly there in the first movie...yeah...
      it was the same cast, and partially the same director of Superman II,
      but SIII was basically a different movie from the other two

      The fact that it strayed from the comic book? That stuff never bothers me
      for that alone....I'm not a religious comic guy.....but.....I do like movies quite
      a bit and inconsistency with vibes gets on my nerves a tad

      The fact that the Salkinds and afterwards Golan/Globus could never
      decide the mood of the Reeve version of the Superman franchise, well,
      that's what bothers me the most about SIII...but its not abig thing, and I still
      soldier on

      Alone from the screwy changes from film to film, SIII is a cute, solid little movie.
      Superman, Superman 2, are great, Superman Returns is solid as well (destined to become more loved over the years), Supergirl was bad but had an extremely likeable actress in Helen Slater.

      But sorry, both Superman III & IV sucked way back then, they still suck now, and will suck a thousand years from now.
      Last edited by Hector; Jun 27, '07, 1:54 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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      • huedell
        Museum Ball Eater
        • Dec 31, 2003
        • 11069

        #18
        "But sorry, both Superman III & IV sucked way back then, they still suck now, and will suck a thousand years from now."

        You're entitled to your opinion Hector---

        But at least we agree on two things----

        1.) SUPERMAN IV is absolutely horrible
        ***I still watch it from time to time for Hackman/Reeve***

        2.) Helen Slater is hot
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        Here's an addendum to my post----

        1. As crazy as this sounds---I don't really like ANY superhero movies
        all that much when compared to other movies to begin with (which is
        probably why I appreciate SIII's clever ending as much as I do, as
        superhero movies rarely have clever endings)

        also...

        2. I would think anyone that appreciated the "Adam West" Batman tone
        and/or the Schumacher films would think that Superman III was heads
        and tails above those other superhero projects as far as superhero comedies go
        Last edited by huedell; Jun 27, '07, 2:11 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
        "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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        • Hector
          el Hombre de Acero
          • May 19, 2003
          • 31852

          #19
          Of course as a comedy, Superman IV is one of the funniest movies of all times, I mean...

          "Look ma', I'm unaffected by the lack of breathable atmosphere and air pressure!!!"


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          • huedell
            Museum Ball Eater
            • Dec 31, 2003
            • 11069

            #20
            Yeah---that gal in space sans spacesuit was a stretch---to say the least
            ----ya gotta wonder what was going on in their heads---other than "farce"
            which is basically the direction the Superman movies degraded into

            I just remembered something tho----I thought the scene where
            Lois visited "sick" Clark in his apartment and kinda said her "goodbyes" to him
            almost as if he might die--- without revealing directly that she knew he was
            Supes was pretty touching

            (I can't believe I admitted that on this thread!)
            "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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            • thunderbolt
              Hi Ernie!!!
              • Feb 15, 2004
              • 34211

              #21
              1 Batman And Robin
              2 Steel
              3 Daredevil
              4 Spider-Man 2
              5 X3
              6 Ghost Rider nice effin' rug, Nic!!
              7 Howard the Duck I know, its not superhero, but it is a Marvel character
              8 Barb Wire
              9 Judge Dredd
              10 Punisher the new Thomas Jane one.
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              ^^^ I'm only counting movies I actually watched.
              Last edited by thunderbolt; Jun 27, '07, 4:05 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
              You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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              • Meule
                Verbose Member
                • Nov 14, 2004
                • 28720

                #22
                1. Batman and Robin
                2. Batman Forever
                3. Catwoman
                4. Hulk
                5. Spiderman 2
                6. Daredevil
                7. Superman IV
                8. Nick Fury

                Haven't seen the FF or Ghost Rider yet, so I can't comment on those, but seeing how many people hate them, I probably will too then
                "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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                • Earth 2 Chris
                  Verbose Member
                  • Mar 7, 2004
                  • 32567

                  #23
                  I somehow forgot Supergirl in amongst both lists. I haven't seen it in 20 years, so I'll just say it's either inbetween both lists, or towards the better end of the "least favorite" list.

                  Chris
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                  • Brue
                    User without title
                    • Sep 29, 2005
                    • 4243

                    #24
                    One mentioned that I didn't see because it looks sooo bad - Man thing

                    one (comic but not hero movie) that i saw that was reallly bad - Constantine.


                    on the Superman 3 discussion- Pryor was horrible. The story was dumb. The ending was bad. Other than otoole the cast was rotten.

                    Reeve was brilliant. The dual between clark and supes was classic. Lana and the smallville scene was great -this left some inspiration (I think) for the smallville show.
                    Last edited by Brue; Jun 27, '07, 1:54 PM. Reason: typos

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                    • The Bat
                      Batman Fanatic
                      • Jul 14, 2002
                      • 13412

                      #25
                      Batman(1989)-Keaton Totally RUIN'S it for Me.
                      Batman Returns
                      Batman Forever(like Kilmer & Jim Carrey though!)
                      Batman and Robin
                      X-Men 3(Horrible...to bad for Word's)
                      Fantastic Four(if They only got Doom right, and The Thing Should have been CGI)
                      Superman 3
                      Superman 4
                      Electra(Mila Jovich Should have been Electra)
                      The Phantom

                      P.S. I couldn't count Catwoman...because I couldn't watch more than 5 minute's of it.(too PAINFUL!)
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                      • ctc
                        Fear the monkeybat!
                        • Aug 16, 2001
                        • 11183

                        #26
                        >9 Judge Dredd

                        I was waitin' for someone to mention this one! If you've never read the comic it was just a bad...bad.... BAD movie. If you've read the comic it was the most painful thing you'll ever force your optic organs to endure!

                        Don C.

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                        • txteach
                          Banned
                          • Jun 17, 2005
                          • 3769

                          #27
                          I can't believe anyone put the new punisher movie on their list. I really enjoyed it.

                          1. Judge Dredd ewwwww
                          2. Hulk
                          3.Captain America
                          4. Kazaam (that crappy shac movie)
                          5. Superman 4
                          6. Superman 3
                          7. Flash Gordon
                          8. Catwoman
                          9. Swamp Thing
                          10. Barb Wire

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                          • The Bat
                            Batman Fanatic
                            • Jul 14, 2002
                            • 13412

                            #28
                            [QUOTE=txteach;15967]I can't believe anyone put the new punisher movie on their list. I really enjoyed it.


                            I liked it too, Tom James was GREAT! But I thought it should have had more ACTION! The pacing isn't good...too many slow part's. They needed a better Director.
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                            • Goblin19
                              Talkative Member
                              • May 2, 2002
                              • 6110

                              #29
                              Oh yeah, I forgot Judge Dredd. That would be in my top 5 or 6 for sure.

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                              • Brue
                                User without title
                                • Sep 29, 2005
                                • 4243

                                #30
                                Hey! I think Judge Dredd is fine.
                                Tomas Jane Punisher? - not top ten worst but definitely not a movie worth watching twice. Dredd as well as many other "bad" nominees are far more entertaining than this. I can actually see people liking this movie for a bad shoot 'em up movie but is is not in the category of Super Hero. Lundgren's verson at least made me feel like he was a hero and Lundgren was better in the role.

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