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david_b
Feb 12, '10, 8:45 AM
Marvel Comics depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100211/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1129)

"Since 1941, Captain America has been one of the most popular comic book characters around. The fictional super-patriot fought Nazis during World War II, took on those who burned the American flag during the Vietnam era, and raked in hundreds of millions of dollars for Marvel Comics along the way. Now, the appearance that he is taking on the Tea Party Movement in a storyline about investigating white supremacists has forced Marvel to apologize for the comic hero."

Further it's reported, "The Falcon mentions that the gathering appears to be "some kind of anti-tax protest" and notes that "this whole 'hate the government' vibe isn't limited to the Watchdogs." He then tells Captain America that he doesn't think their plan will work because "I don't exactly see a black man from Harlem fitting in with a bunch of angry white folks." Captain America then explains that his plan entails sending The Falcon in among the group posing as an IRS agent under the thinking that a black government official will most certainly spark their anger."

A 'black government official'..?? Too funny..

david_b

WannabeMego
Feb 12, '10, 10:41 AM
Press is Press...whether it's Good or Bad...and Marvel is well aware of that.

It gets people talking

MEMEGO
Feb 12, '10, 12:22 PM
I think what marvel meant was that since that group was a suprimist group, then they would not like a blk man. and they also do not like the government, taking their hard earned money, so there was a double wammy why falcon would be disliked, 1) he is blk 2) he was going in as a tax man. and I think that is what marvel wanted to portray, I dont think they wanted to offend anyone.
What do all of you think?

bgrimm77
Feb 12, '10, 1:26 PM
It's only a funny book..... right?

johnmiic
Feb 12, '10, 2:24 PM
Can anyone say Collectors Item??? Cha-Ching!!!!

Best Advice - Guys go to the store and buy 10 copies and save it.

The Bat
Feb 12, '10, 2:48 PM
If I comment on this subject...my post will be deleted.:please_y:

TrueDave
Feb 12, '10, 4:08 PM
If I comment on this subject...my post will be deleted.:please_y:

I second that my brother.:confused2:

Meule
Feb 12, '10, 5:27 PM
Press is Press...whether it's Good or Bad...and Marvel is well aware of that.

It gets people talking

Exactly, it's all about publicity

thunderbolt
Feb 12, '10, 5:37 PM
If I comment on this subject...my post will be deleted.:please_y:

only if your comment mentions a political or religious opinion. Doesn't matter which side you are on, because there is someone here with a differing opinion that will not appreciate your comments.

TrueDave
Feb 12, '10, 7:31 PM
only if your comment mentions a political or religious opinion. Doesn't matter which side you are on, because there is someone here with a differing opinion that will not appreciate your comments.

Does that include:

history ( Spartan Trojan War) or fictional stuff? ( Jedi Midiclorine debate)

The Bat
Feb 12, '10, 8:39 PM
only if your comment mentions a political or religious opinion.

Yes Joe...it would be political.

david_b
Feb 12, '10, 10:19 PM
I'm often in a strange boat on that.. My wife always feels free to comment on the current administration, berrating the president, but I always have to remind her that, as a military officer, especially when we're on base, she can't make certain comments whenever she feels like it. He's my commander-in-chief. It's not censorship, just being conscientious in different situations (situational awareness).

I even had that discussion between other colonels and myself in DC this last year for a national security course I attended. You have to know when to comment. That's just my situation.., but the comments here made me think of that.

david_b

Cosmicman
Feb 12, '10, 10:22 PM
Hey! This topic made Anderson Cooper tonight. It appears to be rattling some cages. :rotfl:

thunderbolt
Feb 13, '10, 3:13 AM
Does that include:

history ( Spartan Trojan War) or fictional stuff? ( Jedi Midiclorine debate)

man, don't get me started on the midichlorians :juggleyes_y:

Earth 2 Chris
Feb 13, '10, 7:19 AM
Joey Q seems the type who really feels there is no such thing as bad press. Because of this, he'll get his face back all over TV again.

Political or not, it wouldn't be the first time comics took made a real-world group the cover for an "evil organization". Everyone is just too frickin' oversensitive. Donald Trump didn't call foul on DC for making Lex Luthor a ruthless tycoon. The bar association didn't bring suit against DC for making Two-Face a former district attorney.

Chris

The Bat
Feb 13, '10, 9:52 AM
, it wouldn't be the first time comics took made a real-world group the cover for an "evil organization".y.

Chris


So you think the Tea Party protesters are an "evil Organization"?:googly: When really they're really just american's standing up for the Constitution & our civil liberties. Taxpayers that are sick of the Government using our Money to bail out Big Banks and Corporations.

Earth 2 Chris
Feb 13, '10, 10:03 AM
I didn't say that at all. I said it wouldn't be the first time they took a real world group and made them a cover for an evil organization. In keeping with the rules of this board, I'm refraining from any political commentary. The fact is comic writers often use timely subject matter and throw in more fantastical stuff.

Unfortunately, white supremacist groups are real, but I doubt they have any specific connection to folks concerned with over-taxation. Which is why Marvel is apologizing. Well, its the reason other than free publicity.

Chris

The Bat
Feb 13, '10, 1:17 PM
Fair enough Chris.:wink_y: I just don't want to see the liberal media portray Tea Party protesters as radical militia Groups.

Earth 2 Chris
Feb 13, '10, 5:20 PM
That's cool Bat. I figured I was just misunderstood.

Now if I honked off white supremacists, screw you. You suck anyhow.:biggrin:

Chris

aquatroy
Feb 16, '10, 11:33 AM
Unfortunately, white supremacist groups are real, but I doubt they have any specific connection to folks concerned with over-taxation. Which is why Marvel is apologizing. Well, its the reason other than free publicity.
Chris

Very well said!

BTW, others have alluded to the "no such thing as bad publicity" cliche. Ask Toyota about bad publicity. There is bad pub and it leaves a stick that a Brady Bunch bath in tomato juice won't remove. Now, I don't believe that Marvel will suffer from this incident. However, comments from creators like Bru and Waid (who chimed in on his twitter page) have made me reconsider who I will support.

ctc
Feb 16, '10, 7:05 PM
>Ask Toyota about bad publicity.

But they're not in the entertainment industry. You can make a good career of cheesing people off; ask Don Rickles. Like Carlin said; it's all about "dig me!" even if it's for bad reasons. People will pick up the book (or at least look through it) to see what the hullabaloo is.

>Everyone is just too frickin' oversensitive.

Too true! Especially since complaining prolongs the attention.

Don C.

johnnystorm
Feb 16, '10, 7:20 PM
I'm wondering just what the Disney folk think of the "no bad publicity" angle? Maybe we won't be seeing Joey Q on CNN too much...not that there's anything wrong with that.

And has Stephen Colbert chimed in on this issue yet?

I'm of the opinion this new "Return to the Heroic Age" stuff that is allegedly "7 years in the making" is not in reality a new corporate directive saying hey, let's get our heroes & villains back where they belong before we get started merchandising the theme parks.

WannabeMego
Feb 16, '10, 9:51 PM
Maybe we won't be seeing Joey Q on CNN too much...

Something tells me that Joe Q's days are numbered and it's about freakin' time (IMHO)