ZICA Classic Battlestar Galactica ?

[joyandtomstudios]

Been there, done that myself. If its not cranky actors, its their oodles of off spring who all want to live a lavish lifestyle off the licenses!! AARGH!

Just curious, have these likenesses been signed off on, and do you currently own them or does Amok Time? I understand if you cant say....I'm just kicking tires here. If the designs were yours to use, and signed off, this could make this whole venture a lot easier!...Hint hint..nudge nudge..wink wink

The final tooling masters have not been done on those heads because they haven't gone into production. After we paint the prototype heads we often find things we can improve on and those changes are made to the final casting that goes to the factory. Those sculpts belong to Amoktime. They allowed us to post images of our work on our website, but we have no rights to the actual sculpts themselves. Classic BSG may be more successful in the Mego scale as it seems to be a hot format right now. I don't think we have pictures of them on our site but we did some of the characters from the new BSG in Mego scale for Robot Chicken. If I remember correctly it was Starbuck/Helio/Adama/Tige. Majestic did prototypes of Adama and Apollo for the new BSG, not Amoktime.

[Mefiboschet]

All the hurdles aside, giving it another go at the 8" scale (and thus lower price point) might be a way to use those existing sculpts! Although I guess if the retailers in question couldn't get the numbers the first time, they might be more hesitant about going through the bother again vs finding another license that might be more popular or easier to produce.

I was thinking about the very same thing. If joyandtomstudios already has gone through all the hassle concerning aquiring the rights, sculpting the prototypes and all the other stuff involved in such a project, why not make use of the hard work and time that was already invested to come up with an 8" line. Of course we are not the ones to decide this, but the parties that would be involved in this.

But as for the sculpts, it is no problem to downscale them.

Georg

[samurainoir]

All the hurdles aside, giving it another go at the 8" scale (and thus lower price point) might be a way to use those existing sculpts! Although I guess if the retailers in question couldn't get the numbers the first time, they might be more hesitant about going through the bother again vs finding another license that might be more popular or easier to produce.

[Mefiboschet]

In regard to the new BSG, I think, for most of us, who collect and customize Mego (or 8" for that matter) figures, our hobby is fanned by childhood memories. It's all about movies, TV series we saw, comics we read and toys we had back then. Seen from todays movie & special effects standards, classic BSG is quite cheesy, but so was Buck Rogers, Star Trek TOS, Space 1999 and what have you.
Even with the new quality and detail the ZICA BR are still retro-style figures and that's what most of us are looking for.
So doing a new TV series like the new Galactica show in retro style just doesn't appeal to me. I personally want to see realized, what I dreamed about 30 years ago as a kid. And that was BSG and BR to go along with my 8" Trek figures.
The new BSG show figures have already been realized in modern 6" scale and I think protos of new Adama and Apollo were made in 12" either by Majestic or Amok.

[Captain]

From past discussions here, I think the new BSG (and the JJ Trek movie) should be added to the "No-Religion--No Politics rule.

Some like it, some hate it.....actually its more like LOVE or absolutely DETEST!

[Captain]

People where already complaining about the cost. Adding things like thrones, Ovions and Daggits adds substancially to the tooling cost as these are not reuseable items. Baltar was not offered in the first wave of Amoktime figures as there were issues with getting the likeness rights from the actor's estate. If you think you have this all figured out when are the figures you are producing coming out? It's easy to sit back and imagine what you would like to have, and how easy it should be for someone else to provide it for you. That isn't the case by a long shot. Getting these kinds of collectibles made requires a lot of time and money. With many factories in the Orient unionizing, the retail cost is going to skyrocket on collectibles across the board. Then there is dealing with movie/tv studios and the actors themselves. It may look like a no brainer from where you are sitting, but it's hardly as easy as you may think.

Been there, done that myself. If its not cranky actors, its their oodles of off spring who all want to live a lavish lifestyle off the licenses!! AARGH!

Just curious, have these likenesses been signed off on, and do you currently own them or does Amok Time? I understand if you cant say....I'm just kicking tires here. If the designs were yours to use, and signed off, this could make this whole venture a lot easier!...Hint hint..nudge nudge..wink wink

[boynightwing]

I don't think I ever asked about peoples feelings on the new BSG here, but I for one love it and would be all over picking up 8 inch figures of them.

[Mefiboschet]

Now imagine, this Commander Cain figure would be 8" scale standing next to the Buck Rogers figures! That's wjat I've been waiting for!!!

[joyandtomstudios]

First off, well done--I've always thought those were beautiful and much better than the Apollo and Starbuck figures that were released. Your sculptors are phenomenal. One thing, though--I thought these were released and available for purchase. Is this not so? I'm fairly certain I've seen them for sale around the Net.

Thanks for the compliment. The person who posted after you is correct. Several online stores were offering the figures as preorders. Last I heard all those preorders combined where not enough for them to move forward with production.

[JediJaida]

I have those figures, and they are ridiculously overpriced!

The sculpts are very bland looking, although the details of the clothing is spot on, and the weapons are perfect.

Still, as I've said before, I'd LOVE to see these in 8" format.

For one thing, they'd be easier to display, and store.

For another, they'd be a lot easier on the wallet.

Thirdly, they'd be easier to photograph and show off.

[joyandtomstudios]

I can't exactly say old Light Bulb Head is a favorite. Hey, guys, where's Baltar? Throw in a vac formed throne, and you've got a customer right here!
And how about some Ovions and daggits?
With these, you don't even need actor face approval.

How about getting this line going again by including one vac formed (meaning cheap) piece of a Viper?
Collect the whole line, and in the end you have a snapfit Viper!

Jeez, do I have to do ALL the thinking around here....

People where already complaining about the cost. Adding things like thrones, Ovions and Daggits adds substancially to the tooling cost as these are not reuseable items. Baltar was not offered in the first wave of Amoktime figures as there were issues with getting the likeness rights from the actor's estate. If you think you have this all figured out when are the figures you are producing coming out? It's easy to sit back and imagine what you would like to have, and how easy it should be for someone else to provide it for you. That isn't the case by a long shot. Getting these kinds of collectibles made requires a lot of time and money. With many factories in the Orient unionizing, the retail cost is going to skyrocket on collectibles across the board. Then there is dealing with movie/tv studios and the actors themselves. It may look like a no brainer from where you are sitting, but it's hardly as easy as you may think.

[Mefiboschet]

First off, well done--I've always thought those were beautiful and much better than the Apollo and Starbuck figures that were released. Your sculptors are phenomenal. One thing, though--I thought these were released and available for purchase. Is this not so? I'm fairly certain I've seen them for sale around the Net.

You probably saw the pre-order items on the web. I had pre-ordered them also, but they were never delivered.

[torgospizza]

Our studio sculpted the prototypes for the Amoktime BSG figures (Athena/Boomer/Tige/Cain/Lucifer). Amoktime really wants to release these, but there have been a lot of problems along the way. Getting these projects from prototype to store shelves is like trying to cross a minefield blindfolded.

First off, well done--I've always thought those were beautiful and much better than the Apollo and Starbuck figures that were released. Your sculptors are phenomenal. One thing, though--I thought these were released and available for purchase. Is this not so? I'm fairly certain I've seen them for sale around the Net.

[samurainoir]

Hokey Smokes! Commander Cain.



Just imagine the Airplane! custom figure!

[david_b]

I can't exactly say old Light Bulb Head is a favorite. Hey, guys, where's Baltar? Throw in a vac formed throne, and you've got a customer right here!
And how about some Ovions and daggits?
With these, you don't even need actor face approval.

How about getting this line going again by including one vac formed (meaning cheap) piece of a Viper?
Collect the whole line, and in the end you have a snapfit Viper!

Jeez, do I have to do ALL the thinking around here....

I hear ya...! Sometimes you feel they're just 'phoning' this in...

david_b