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  • MIB41
    Eloquent Member
    • Sep 25, 2005
    • 15633

    #91
    Originally posted by ODBJBG
    John Stewart is STILL available on MattyCollector. I think that pretty much says it all.

    If everyone who signed the petition had spent $200 to buy 10 Stewarts, I bet a better case could have been made... Not that I would expect anyone to do that. Just saying, that with a small effort, the risk must be much more substantial. Which is ultimately the problem with these sorts of things.

    Lots of people would buy more of these guys if they were on the shelf and price is right, but how many would spend hundreds of dollars on the "chance" that this might help the line continue.
    There's over 400 petitions signed. So your saying Mattel needs that small group of people to spend over $80,000.00 just to consider keeping the line going? And you think that's a reasonable expectation? Uh......right. If Mattel needed an extra 4,000 figures sold, they should have stocked them in TRU stores and advertised they EXISTED. There are scores of kids and potential buyers who grew up in the 70's who don't know this line was ever available. THAT'S Mattel's fault.

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    • Bronxboykev
      Permanent Member
      • Mar 7, 2011
      • 3013

      #92
      I was 79 and my brother was 81. We need this to pick up more steam!!!

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      • zeedox
        Career Member
        • Aug 10, 2007
        • 722

        #93
        Have you been to Toys R Us Lately?

        Stuff just sits on the shelf that I have seen weeks ago. The best place to find anything new there is the Diamond Aisle. The Star Wars figures have the same problem now too.

        I don't even see the shelf space for that kind of movement. What I think it sadder is all that Cars 2 Stuff. Is it me or does it all look the same?

        I don't see those flying off the shelves either yknow....

        And I really think if they made the cartoon version of John Stewart they would be flying off the shelf. As much as I am old school, I would have gone with a Green Lantern movie with the
        "black" Green Lantern I think kids have had enough of the standard white guy flying around.

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        • yard_sales_2011
          New Member
          • Feb 3, 2011
          • 15

          #94
          Originally posted by MIB41
          If Mattel needed an extra 4,000 figures sold, they should have stocked them in TRU stores and advertised they EXISTED. There are scores of kids and potential buyers who grew up in the 70's who don't know this line was ever available. THAT'S Mattel's fault.
          Absolutely!

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          • raider5gt
            Museum Tree Cutter
            • Nov 25, 2007
            • 1911

            #95
            Originally posted by MIB41
            If Mattel needed an extra 4,000 figures sold, they should have stocked them in TRU stores and advertised they EXISTED. There are scores of kids and potential buyers who grew up in the 70's who don't know this line was ever available. THAT'S Mattel's fault.
            Or they should of made them available worldwide,for all of us to collect and sorted the license out to do so.

            Never stand behind a cow when it sneezes.

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            • Mego Magyar
              Permanent Member
              • Jan 17, 2011
              • 2678

              #96
              Currently 450 signatures and of those I counted about 47 that are either "Anonymous" or a joke name.

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              • jimsmegos
                Mego Dork
                • Nov 9, 2008
                • 4519

                #97
                I noticed the museum has just over 1,200 facebook friends. where are your friends when ya need 'em?

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                • MEGO_SUPERMAN
                  Say No To Kryptonite!
                  • May 9, 2011
                  • 341

                  #98
                  bummer
                  Truth, Justice and Megos THAT is the American Way!

                  The Human Torch was denied a bank loan! - Ron Burgundy KVWN Channel 4 News Team

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                  • ODBJBG
                    Permanent Member
                    • May 15, 2009
                    • 3211

                    #99
                    Originally posted by MIB41
                    There's over 400 petitions signed. So your saying Mattel needs that small group of people to spend over $80,000.00 just to consider keeping the line going? And you think that's a reasonable expectation? Uh......right. If Mattel needed an extra 4,000 figures sold, they should have stocked them in TRU stores and advertised they EXISTED. There are scores of kids and potential buyers who grew up in the 70's who don't know this line was ever available. THAT'S Mattel's fault.
                    You obviously didn't read what I wrote. That's not at all what I said. I never said it was a resonable expectation, in fact I said the complete opposite.



                    However, if the 400 people who want the line to continue had bought 10 of the John Stewarts off of Matty, the line likely would have had a much better shot at getting at least a few more exclusives. TG has now said that Kyle is the "last shot" at saving the line, so if people buy him up, then perhaps the line will continue.

                    However if there are only the amount of fans that signed the petition willing to buy the figures, you better hope they're buying multiples or it's not going to happen. Plain and simple.

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                    • jayraytee
                      Career Member
                      • May 27, 2011
                      • 724

                      Originally posted by ODBJBG
                      You obviously didn't read what I wrote. That's not at all what I said. I never said it was a resonable expectation, in fact I said the complete opposite.



                      However, if the 400 people who want the line to continue had bought 10 of the John Stewarts off of Matty, the line likely would have had a much better shot at getting at least a few more exclusives. TG has now said that Kyle is the "last shot" at saving the line, so if people buy him up, then perhaps the line will continue.
                      You just said it again.
                      My posts were needlessly deleted ...

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                      • MIB41
                        Eloquent Member
                        • Sep 25, 2005
                        • 15633

                        Originally posted by ODBJBG
                        You obviously didn't read what I wrote. That's not at all what I said. I never said it was a resonable expectation, in fact I said the complete opposite.



                        However, if the 400 people who want the line to continue had bought 10 of the John Stewarts off of Matty, the line likely would have had a much better shot at getting at least a few more exclusives. TG has now said that Kyle is the "last shot" at saving the line, so if people buy him up, then perhaps the line will continue.

                        However if there are only the amount of fans that signed the petition willing to buy the figures, you better hope they're buying multiples or it's not going to happen. Plain and simple.
                        I understood exactly what you said. It was a hypothetical, which you qualified, but didn't expect to happen. But in saying that, you never debunked the idea. You even qualified it again with your last statement above. I understand the gist of what your trying to get at though - Can such a small group of collectors buy up enough to keep the line going? Of course not. And there are plenty, including myself, who have bought multiples. What I AM saying, is that Mattel never advertised to anyone outside of this group of people. Hence their expectations were never grounded. So either hypothetical with the multiple purchases or buying up Kyle are not remotely realistic. Heck, Kyle himself is not even a highly desired character in the Lantern universe, let alone a popular figure to buy. So even suggesting his sales could possibly hold the key to continuing this line when the likes of Batman, Superman, and the Flash did nothing is essentially a dreamfest.

                        Awareness was the key to making this work. We here at the Mego museum eat, sleep, and drink eight inch goodness every day, every week, of every year in our lives. The mere mention of this line in a thread started a wildfire of interest. No advertising dollars needed here. It's everyone outside this circle that needed to know. There are SCORES of people who grew up in the 70's that will never know this line ever existed. And so many with kids that would have flipped had they seen these. Paul and Joe knew that. You and me knew that. But for some strange reason Mattel didn't. Mattel apparently didn't think reintroducing a 35 year old line required an announcement for those outside our circle. Sure they unveiled them at Toyfair. But those events are for US. They ran an ad in toy COLLECTOR magazines. Once again, a magazine for US. Wasted dollars. We already knew. We were at the front of the line. H*ll, we WERE the line!

                        No commercials during kid programs. No ads from the exclusive retailer, TRU. Just a brief appearance of wave one in some stores and then... oblivion. Even most collectors like us had to WORK to get these figures. So this is all on Mattel my friend. There is NOTHING for us to do. We did it all already. We drove endless miles looking for this product. We called our local store managers asking to order it. And in most cases, many overpaid the standard market price because they only found it at local comic stores or through online vendors, which meant additional shipping costs as well. AND we brought these concerns to Mattel early in the line's release. Mattel did NOTHING. And now they come to us with this obscure character in the Lantern universe and suggest he is our 'best' hope. REALLY? Sorry... We already did the work, spent our money, and showed our undying support to this line. Including buying multiple sets. We did our part. Mattel didn't do theirs. That is the story and that is how history will look upon the demise of this line.

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                        • jimsmegos
                          Mego Dork
                          • Nov 9, 2008
                          • 4519

                          Originally posted by MIB41
                          I understood exactly what you said. It was a hypothetical, which you qualified, but didn't expect to happen. But in saying that, you never debunked the idea. You even qualified it again with your last statement above. I understand the gist of what your trying to get at though - Can such a small group of collectors buy up enough to keep the line going? Of course not. And there are plenty, including myself, who have bought multiples. What I AM saying, is that Mattel never advertised to anyone outside of this group of people. Hence their expectations were never grounded. So either hypothetical with the multiple purchases or buying up Kyle are not remotely realistic. Heck, Kyle himself is not even a highly desired character in the Lantern universe, let alone a popular figure to buy. So even suggesting his sales could possibly hold the key to continuing this line when the likes of Batman, Superman, and the Flash did nothing is essentially a dreamfest.

                          Awareness was the key to making this work. We here at the Mego museum eat, sleep, and drink eight inch goodness every day, every week, of every year in our lives. The mere mention of this line in a thread started a wildfire of interest. No advertising dollars needed here. It's everyone outside this circle that needed to know. There are SCORES of people who grew up in the 70's that will never know this line ever existed. And so many with kids that would have flipped had they seen these. Paul and Joe knew that. You and me knew that. But for some strange reason Mattel didn't. Mattel apparently didn't think reintroducing a 35 year old line required an announcement for those outside our circle. Sure they unveiled them at Toyfair. But those events are for US. They ran an ad in toy COLLECTOR magazines. Once again, a magazine for US. Wasted dollars. We already knew. We were at the front of the line. H*ll, we WERE the line!

                          No commercials during kid programs. No ads from the exclusive retailer, TRU. Just a brief appearance of wave one in some stores and then... oblivion. Even most collectors like us had to WORK to get these figures. So this is all on Mattel my friend. There is NOTHING for us to do. We did it all already. We drove endless miles looking for this product. We called our local store managers asking to order it. And in most cases, many overpaid the standard market price because they only found it at local comic stores or through online vendors, which meant additional shipping costs as well. AND we brought these concerns to Mattel early in the line's release. Mattel did NOTHING. And now they come to us with this obscure character in the Lantern universe and suggest he is our 'best' hope. REALLY? Sorry... We already did the work, spent our money, and showed our undying support to this line. Including buying multiple sets. We did our part. Mattel didn't do theirs. That is the story and that is how history will look upon the demise of this line.
                          If you run for president, my vote is yours. Two terms.

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                          • MIB41
                            Eloquent Member
                            • Sep 25, 2005
                            • 15633

                            Originally posted by jimsmegos
                            If you run for president, my vote is yours. Two terms.
                            Jim I'll make you my VP!

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                            • tkbk848
                              Mego World Traveler
                              • May 2, 2010
                              • 46

                              MIB41 ... good god you write well!! That’s pretty much everything in a nut shell right there.
                              Sell me your stuff..“Resistance is futile”

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                              • The Shadow
                                Member
                                • Jun 22, 2011
                                • 63

                                Originally posted by MIB41
                                Mattel did NOTHING. And now they come to us with this obscure character in the Lantern universe and suggest he is our 'best' hope. REALLY? Sorry... We already did the work, spent our money, and showed our undying support to this line. Including buying multiple sets. We did our part. Mattel didn't do theirs. That is the story and that is how history will look upon the demise of this line.
                                Well, I don't really think you can say they did NOTHING. They did, after all, listen to us with regard to fixing the bodies. Although I think that they thought that with the price point and the collectors *****ing, they had better do something. I know I almost quit buying these things after wave one because I thought that for $20+ the things ought to at least stand up straight.

                                But as far as getting the message out there, you nailed it. What they needed to do along with bringing back figures that we 40 somethings played with as kids, was to put out some kind of hot property that would have appealed to TODAY'S kids. Maybe Harry Potter or vampires or something. Then they would have had kids pestering their parents to buy them IF they had been readily availible in stores, which is another area Mattel dropped the ball.

                                What Mattel should be willing to do now (after seriously dropping the ball IMO) is not base the survival of the line on some Green Lantern that most of the world has never heard of, but put out a Robin figure and see how sales go

                                Make figures that people WANT Mattel, and I highly suspect they'll get bought

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