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  • Werewolf
    Inhuman
    • Jul 14, 2003
    • 14955

    #16
    Originally posted by palitoy
    If Retro Action was also at Wal-Mart and Target, it would be a different story.
    When I was a kid Megos were everywhere. Kmart, Sears, JC Penny, Kaybee Toys, Ben Franklin, Woolworths, grocery stores, drugstores, hardware stores, etc. Mego's production runs were also so high I was still finding the 8 inch Dukes of Hazard figures at Kaybee up to the early 90s.
    You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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    • Astronut
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 21, 2010
      • 360

      #17
      Originally posted by palitoy
      No it's not safe to assume that, it's incorrect. It may be more like 20 times, Mego sold more than one million Action Jacksons in 1972, one could conjecture that Superman would fair even better.
      Okay I'll grant you that. I was not taking AJ into consideration. Obviously the body was already produced in large quantities.

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      • CrimsonGhost
        Often invisible
        • Jul 18, 2002
        • 3608

        #18
        Originally posted by Astronut
        Also, with a straight face, can you honestly say that a typical consumer is going to look at these figures (the size, the cheap-retro look etc) and then look at that $19.99 pricepoint and not say to themselves, "Wow, that seems kinda high..." Of COURSE these are priced too high. You don't have to have a degree in economics to see that.
        Or perhaps the typical customer thinks "I'd rather pay $20 for a retro figure than $20 on two little Star Wars figures or GIJoe figures"

        I don't know or care what the typical consumer thinks. The price is what it is. It's your choice to buy it or not.

        Back in the 70's, the license was probably cheap for DC and Marvel. However, times have vastly changed in the way licenses are handled and the value of these properties in particular. I defer to Palitoys superior knowledge in the area of licensing.
        Expectation is the death of discovery.

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        • Astronut
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 21, 2010
          • 360

          #19
          Let me ask you this. Just a hypothetical.

          A lot of people - us hardcore Mego geek types - have stated they would be willing to buy *double* the amount of these if they were priced in the neighborhood of $10. I was thinking the exact same thing even before reading those sentiments here in the forum; I would happily buy two of each at $9.99 a pop. That's not to say *everyone* would buy two, but I imagine a *lot* of us would. At the very least we would be more inclined to buy MORE of them it would seem.

          So. If that were the case, Mattel would be raking in *approximately* -- *roughly* -- the same amount of revenue for these. On top of that, it would be raking in more cash from the non geeks, the little Johnny's... more money overall... the line has legs and avoids being cancelled prematurely... the line eventually expands into other retailers... ka-ching!

          Like I said, I know this is all hypothetical but wouldn't that be a better scenario for everyone overall? Just a thought.

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          • JDeRouen
            Author of Small Things
            • Jun 14, 2001
            • 16568

            #20
            It is what it is. Heck, I'd like Mattel to send me figures for free, but they're probably not going to do that.

            If we don't buy them at $19.99, they'll either a) lower the price, or b) cancel the line. I'm betting on the latter option, but you never know.

            The bottom line is, if you don't feel it's a good value for you, don't buy them.
            --
            Order Small Things, my contemporary fantasy novel featuring Megos, at http://joederouen.com/?page_id=176

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            • Meule
              Verbose Member
              • Nov 14, 2004
              • 28720

              #21
              Originally posted by palitoy
              Mego sold them everywhere, not four pegs at one chain. If Retro Action was also at Wal-Mart and Target, it would be a different story.
              So what's stopping Mattel from doing that? And selling these worldwide?
              "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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              • PNGwynne
                Master of Fowl Play
                • Jun 5, 2008
                • 19898

                #22
                ^ I was wondering about that, too.

                Is it a purposeful niche market? I've also wondered why the nicely-made MOTU Classics line is online-only...
                WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.

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                • Werewolf
                  Inhuman
                  • Jul 14, 2003
                  • 14955

                  #23
                  Originally posted by PNGwynne
                  I've also wondered why the nicely-made MOTU Classics line is online-only...
                  After the retail disaster that was the 2002 MOTU reboot, retailers wouldn't touch MOTU. Toy makers can't sell what stores refuse to order.
                  You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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                  • megomania
                    Persistent Member
                    • Jan 2, 2010
                    • 2175

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Astronut
                    People are not going to buy NEARLY as many of these when they are (seemingly) priced at around double what they should be.

                    Again, LOVE 'EM, but I am being realistic here.
                    Meh. Let's see - I bought (4) GA's, (2) ea of the rest of Wave 1, and (1) ea so far of Wave 2...only because my local TRU's don't have them yet. Once they arrive I'm buying (1) more of each. And so on, and so on, and so on of the upcoming waves.

                    So count me out of your poll

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                    • LovethoseMegos
                      Lover of Megos
                      • Jan 3, 2010
                      • 49

                      #25
                      I won't buy them not due to the price, but because of the quality. If these things came on castaway bodies I'd buy triples. I'm not going to be a lemming like those who support these poorly made figures.

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                      • jwyblejr
                        galactic yo-yo
                        • Apr 6, 2006
                        • 11147

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Meule
                        So what's stopping Mattel from doing that? And selling these worldwide?
                        Wal-Mart would be my answer. They're very picky about what they carry. Look at the G.I. Joe:Pursuit of Cobra stuff. TRU and Target carry them but does Wal-Mart? No.

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                        • tllgn
                          Persistent Member
                          • Feb 6, 2010
                          • 1690

                          #27
                          i think that 19.99 is a fair price for retro mego ,well emce figures of course,at the time the prices were from 2.99 to 5.99,depending on where you went,the most average price that i recall through 1973-1980,it also depended on what line you went for ,and what store,was 3.99,and given inflation for the last thirty years ,it certainly still a good deal today,remember the comic price of just .25,and today they can go for 2.99 or more.its a fair deal.

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                          • Zemo
                            Still Smokin'
                            • Feb 14, 2006
                            • 3888

                            #28
                            There is no way these were made for mass market to kids. Kids today don't even know who half these characters are. It's niche market that they will make a few bucks on, good for them for doing it. I personally think the price should be about 15.00, but what do I know. Like some else said, kids are paying 9.99 for a lump of metal or plastic.

                            I do believe niche or not, at 20 bucks they should work out the basic problems, lighting fast. That's just poor business and leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths.

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                            • Astronut
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 21, 2010
                              • 360

                              #29
                              Originally posted by megomania
                              Meh. Let's see - I bought (4) GA's, (2) ea of the rest of Wave 1, and (1) ea so far of Wave 2...only because my local TRU's don't have them yet. Once they arrive I'm buying (1) more of each. And so on, and so on, and so on of the upcoming waves.

                              So count me out of your poll
                              I wasn't taking a poll but thanks for your awesome commentary.

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                              • rlkrefft
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 14, 2010
                                • 306

                                #30
                                Kids may not know all the foes (besides Batman ones and Lex Luthor) but they all know the heroes. Between The Batman cartoon,Justice League and that new Super Friends show I'm certain the major DC heroes are pretty well known to most kids. O.k. maybe not guys like Spectre or Red Tornado or Zatanna but the original silver age JLA members are all pretty famous and all the Supes/Bats sidekicks. Unless the kids are living in an over protective home where parents shelter them from most tv. I can see kids wanting these figures but I can't see parents paying $20.00 a pop for them. I have 2 of each wave 1 and 2 and 2 Green Arrows. Keep one of each on display and one of each carded. I don't mind the price point but I do wish for the price the bodies were a bit better (so they could at least stand straight) for $20.00 I expect a little better. Megos could stand straight at $2.99.lol

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