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  • thunderbolt
    Hi Ernie!!!
    • Feb 15, 2004
    • 34211

    #31
    I imagine it will be more along the lines of Batman 66, better costuming and detail, and not so mego-y.
    You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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    • jayraytee
      Career Member
      • May 27, 2011
      • 724

      #32
      Originally posted by scott metzger
      Point is, we don't know if these will be Mego format, and, by that, I mean what most folks think of as a Mego (big boots, cheap capes, non-accurate costumes, etc). Those are the things that make a lot of collectors look down on our beloved figures, because they feel the industry has moved well beyond that. Things like the DC heroes are a recreation of that style, but things like the Batman '66 line are not. The only thing these figures have in common are scale and a base body. Mego NEVER made anything with the kind of detail in this scale we see in that line, and I would expect Potter would get the same treatment. There really hasn't been anything quite like these before in this scale, so FTC is wading into untested waters. These aren't classic Megos, and I don't expect Harry and company will be either.
      How many figures like the Batman 66 figures do you see hanging on pegs at walmart or target. They are still retro-ish. The format is basically dead except for in this collector market. There is a reason for that, in todays world of technology most kids aren't into this kind of thing like we were in the 70s.
      My posts were needlessly deleted ...

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      • jeffbearco
        Persistent Member
        • Mar 27, 2011
        • 1325

        #33
        I honestly think that if FTC approaches the HP figures with the 66 level of detail and actually pushes them out into mainstream stores which the HP brand would definitely allow, along with at the theme park, this could pull FTC more into the mainstream. The big thing is to get them out there into the mainstream. I think they would sell at Target. And at the $25-$30 price point, they could sell a lot more to kids instead of collectors.

        I'm also curious about how they will distribute the Wrestling figures.

        I think the distribution channels will make or break both lines.

        JeffBearCO

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        • jwyblejr
          galactic yo-yo
          • Apr 6, 2006
          • 11147

          #34
          I could see a place like Hot Topic carrying these.

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          • megalomaniac001
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 24, 2009
            • 394

            #35
            Cool! I like the idea of these. I really don't see FTC as a children's toy company (I may be wrong here) but I do see them as a maker of collectible action figures. With that in mind, I hope that Potter fans will embrace these if they are done in Mego format. (We don't know if that is what FTC is doing yet after all!) I agree with the sentiments here that see these as more of a modern style figure that is not trying to be retro other than the base bodies. I also agree that if these are successful, it helps FTC keep going on the DC license and to get other new licenses that we can enjoy in the future. Oh... and yes, I would be down for some of these!

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            • huedell
              Museum Ball Eater
              • Dec 31, 2003
              • 11069

              #36
              Originally posted by jayraytee
              How many figures like the Batman 66 figures do you see hanging on pegs at walmart or target. They are still retro-ish. The format is basically dead except for in this collector market. There is a reason for that, in todays world of technology most kids aren't into this kind of thing like we were in the 70s.
              I agree... those that are making the distinction between the early Mego production limitations, and a more modern "more detailed" figure, I don't think are accurate in gauging others' POV on such things. WE see the difference, of course, because we're big fans of both Mego and the format they popularized so long ago.

              And someone like me or you could have a preference along the lines of, "I want FTC's WGSH's new characters to NOT have the detail of FTC's '66 characters (or TO have that '66 detail)"... but, my take is that the MAINSTREAM consumers don't see it that way. To them, the retro format/style is just THAT.

              Straw that breaks the camel here? Let's face facts... adult nerds will pay $25 for figures that you sometimes have to reconstruct, customizing a bit--or tweaking from top to bottom to get where they want. I don't think kids (and/or their parents who are BUYING the things for 'em) will buy into that---and I don't think "Potter" fans will buy into that.

              FTC's gonna have to up their game if Potter is the franchise they wanna get into.

              In fact, I think they'd be better off paying MORE for a Star Wars license, keeping the same mediocre overall quality, and charging $5 more for a figure, because at least Potter spans farther back into past generations, and could snag more adult (nerd) collectors who are more concerned with getting certain product rather than getting other collectors involved with certain product expectations whose desertion of the line could bring that line down entirely.
              "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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              • huedell
                Museum Ball Eater
                • Dec 31, 2003
                • 11069

                #37
                Originally posted by justzeg18
                I'm kind of confused by so many of the negative responses here... Isn't Harry Potter at FTC the same as The Wizard of OZ at Mego?
                Not even CLOSE.

                Wizard of Oz had a history spanning back a generation or even two or three.
                "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                • huedell
                  Museum Ball Eater
                  • Dec 31, 2003
                  • 11069

                  #38
                  Originally posted by MegoScott
                  That's a smart license if you are looking to expand beyond old Mego nerds.
                  But the sad truth is that's probably the only people who will possibly buy it. T-Bolt said the Batman '66 figures are doing well outside of us old Mego nerds? HOW well? Are the figures even viable for Toys R Us or such? I think there's a bit of wishful thinking going on here, if the scenario is what I believe it to be...i.e. Potter 8-inch clothed figures in today's marketplace where FTC can't even break into mainstream/non-nerd toy distribution.
                  "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                  • justzeg18
                    Career Member
                    • May 5, 2003
                    • 780

                    #39
                    Originally posted by huedell
                    Not even CLOSE.

                    Wizard of Oz had a history spanning back a generation or even two or three.
                    They are both major licenses, slightly outside of thier "best by" date, but with standing fan bases.
                    Both are permanent parts of pop-culture.
                    They are both "evergreen" licenses, that appeal to multiple age ranges.

                    Do I think it's a slam dunk? No. Not at all.

                    But I also think this license in particular seems to be pointing out the "average" mego fans age based bias.

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                    • jeffbearco
                      Persistent Member
                      • Mar 27, 2011
                      • 1325

                      #40
                      After reading through the comments I've been reminded of the off and on quality issues that seem to crop up that many of us Mego fans take for granted. I don't think the average HP fan outside of the Mego fans will put up with that.

                      This being said, if they can produce a solid figure with a head that is in scale with the body, work out the consistency issues with the bodies (I still think the current crop of FTC bodies display a LOT better than most of the Matel Megos.) They could make a go of it. The costumes that they have been doing lately have been really good! The head sculpts have been very good other than some scaling issues (hit or miss). The product is ALMOST there!

                      And if they can just make that last leap and do really good HP figures, it should actually help with the rest of their Mego figures!

                      Plus at their average price point, or even going up $5 to make a great looking figure, I think they could pull it off. The average parent who buys their kid a toy is going to be willing to pay the $30 to make their kid happy as long as the toy is not already broken in the package.

                      So here they are. They have what could be their break into more mainstream figures. Don't muck it up!

                      JeffBearCO

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                      • EMCE Hammer
                        Moderation Engineer
                        • Aug 14, 2003
                        • 25763

                        #41
                        Originally posted by huedell
                        But the sad truth is that's probably the only people who will possibly buy it. T-Bolt said the Batman '66 figures are doing well outside of us old Mego nerds? HOW well? Are the figures even viable for Toys R Us or such? I think there's a bit of wishful thinking going on here, if the scenario is what I believe it to be...i.e. Potter 8-inch clothed figures in today's marketplace where FTC can't even break into mainstream/non-nerd toy distribution.
                        They'll do fine with these. There is plenty going on in the world of Harry Potter and interest is still quite high. FTC is perfectly happy to sell online. They don't need a brick and mortar presence to be successful. I don't think the Batman 66 line is a reliable indicator of what HP will or won't do; may as well compare it to BBP Doctor Who or SMDM as well.

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                        • thunderbolt
                          Hi Ernie!!!
                          • Feb 15, 2004
                          • 34211

                          #42
                          Originally posted by huedell
                          But the sad truth is that's probably the only people who will possibly buy it. T-Bolt said the Batman '66 figures are doing well outside of us old Mego nerds? HOW well? Are the figures even viable for Toys R Us or such? I think there's a bit of wishful thinking going on here, if the scenario is what I believe it to be...i.e. Potter 8-inch clothed figures in today's marketplace where FTC can't even break into mainstream/non-nerd toy distribution.
                          you need to go back and look at my post, that is not what I said. I said Batman 66 has a fanbase outside of Megomuseum.
                          You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                          • huedell
                            Museum Ball Eater
                            • Dec 31, 2003
                            • 11069

                            #43
                            Originally posted by thunderbolt
                            you need to go back and look at my post, that is not what I said. I said Batman 66 has a fanbase outside of Megomuseum.
                            Oh? So you weren't implying that that means the line was selling well because of that? Or were you indeed implying that, and nitpicking my paraphrasing?
                            "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                            • huedell
                              Museum Ball Eater
                              • Dec 31, 2003
                              • 11069

                              #44
                              Originally posted by EMCE Hammer
                              They'll do fine with these. There is plenty going on in the world of Harry Potter and interest is still quite high. FTC is perfectly happy to sell online. They don't need a brick and mortar presence to be successful. I don't think the Batman 66 line is a reliable indicator of what HP will or won't do; may as well compare it to BBP Doctor Who or SMDM as well.
                              I disagree with that "lumping" as Dr. Who, SMDM and Batman '66 are all "adult/old nerd based" while Potter is the "one that doesn't belong" of the four. That's not to say my theories are dead on, but that's my rationalization nevertheless.
                              "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                              • huedell
                                Museum Ball Eater
                                • Dec 31, 2003
                                • 11069

                                #45
                                Originally posted by justzeg18
                                They are both major licenses, slightly outside of thier "best by" date, but with standing fan bases.
                                Both are permanent parts of pop-culture.
                                They are both "evergreen" licenses, that appeal to multiple age ranges.

                                Do I think it's a slam dunk? No. Not at all.

                                But I also think this license in particular seems to be pointing out the "average" mego fans age based bias.
                                For good reason... pop culture... and the ones that buy the merch of it are different today... lots more possibilities, and some are just lukewarm ideas.

                                My belief is that FTC Potter is floating into that zone of "maybe we shouldn't go there". EMCEHammer up there^^^ mentioned the aspect of Potter doing fine as far as "selling" these days---yes, I suppose, but that wasn't what I was getting at, it was more the idea of clothed 8 inch type figures not being so appealing to enough of the Potter fanbase... mostly because they are defined by a YOUNGER generation who aren't as interested in the 8-inch clothed format as the older generations. Not every 6, 10 or 15 year old has a "Mego maniac" father who is gonna shove this stuff down their throats the way Mego Museum fathers would
                                "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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