What to buy first? Or too many toys at once!

[ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide]

But I DO understand some of the issues people are having and wouldn't deny them that right to voice it and address it with the company. Been there, done that. But in acknowledging that, I'm not necessarily having the same experience or feel it's anything I need to add to the discussion. If I did, I would be right there. So please folks, if some of us want to offer positive input, lets not take that to task as if it's been offered as a challenge to someone's criticism. Mine is not. I recognize and respect others who are not satisfied with what they're getting. All I ask is that same consideration be given to those of us who may not be experiencing those issues right now (and vice-verse). I think there's plenty of room for everyone to voice their perspective and live in harmony. That's the spice of collecting. All my best.

Years ago before I started collecting Megos a friend told me he had found a Mego Batman figure for me at a yard sale. It would be my first Mego since the 1970s and I couldn't wait to get it. When I saw him he handed me a Type 1 Batman and I said "wait, that's not a Mego Batman!". Because I didn't start buying Megos till the Type 2 body came out, and I had no idea at that time that they even sold them on a Type 1 body. So to me a Mego Batman was the one I had as a kid, on a Type 2 body.

The point is, I think most of us want the figures we had as a kid. If I had Batman, I want FTC's Batman to damn near be a replica of that figure. For a figure like Supergirl that I never had as a kid, the part of the hair or Kara having sleek sleeves instead of poofy sleeves doesn't really bother me. My tolerance for changes to the figures depends on whether or not I had it as a kid. I think this is a big part of the reason why some here are greatly upset about certain issues on certain figures that the rest of us could care less about.

With these figures I want to relive my childhood. But more than anything, I just want to be happy that these figures exist instead of getting lost in the minutiae of critiquing them. None of these figures are perfect replicas, and never will be. If you accept that the best you can hope for from a $25 figure is 'pretty close' then I think you'll be a lot more satisfied, overall.

[invisiblelad]

MIB41,

I hope my post didn't make you think I was trying to challenge your positive critiques of these FTC's figures! I 100% have NEVER felt YOU have EVER tried to belittle anyone who has posted concerns/complaints. I definitely think you make fantastic points & have not seen any posts or behaviors from you where you try to antagonize anyone here. I also see you go out of your way to state that you value everyone's differing opinions. I quickly see The_Player jumps in like he addresses other posters w/ the same consideration & respect that you do. In The_Players' above post it seems that he treats posters here w/ differing opinions in the same fashion you & other posters here do. That's clearly NOT the case. I have not remembered any of the supreme Negativity The_Player has inspired here on the megomuseum in many many years (since DC Retro maybe?). So I just hope you didn't take my post as trying to challenge your very valid & positive opinions on the FTC re-mego resurgence! Thanks for being one of the 99.9% of megomuseum members who are truly class act people!

[thunderbolt]

Personally I think their packaging is horrible - I'd much prefer a window box over their oversize clam shell.

Agreed, heck I'd be happier with a solid box. I bet that would shave a bunch off the cost too. The packaging is an insane waste of material for the open 'em up crowd. Wish they'd try a box option on one figure for a couple bucks less and see how it sold.

[MIB41]

Thanks for the clarification on your statements Invisiblelad. I appreciate that. Yeah, I really enjoy the vast array of discussion on these figures. If everyone agreed, this would be a boring hobby for talking points. But between the criticisms and praise, I see allot of love for the hobby. Lets face it. This is a passionate field for collecting. People bring their childhood memories and emotions to the table when they discuss the merits of these figures. It's unavoidable. Everyone has a favorite figure (or group of figures) and the nuances of why they love them are far beyond what Mego or another company could have anticipated in the manufacturing process. Lots of happy accidents with these figures. So when I read someone coming down pretty hard on some of these figures, I'm not thinking, " Oh why is that person trolling this thread." I'm thinking, "That person had a real love for that original figure (or license) and these are his/her reasons why it was a miss." There's a bit of testimonial going on when people review these figures and I try to keep that perspective when I read feedback. To me everyone is participating and whether they like something exactly the way it came or are tweaking it by giving it a different body, or some refined accessories or features, that tells me the hobby is WORKING. These companies are giving us the figures and our imaginations are taking over from there. For me, that is what the real magic of Mego is.

With this specific line of DC licensed figures, my personal expectation is for FTC to give them a close resemblance to those vintage figures while keeping the core ideas with the outfits the same. From my measure, that is happening. And after a bit of tweaking, I think they're really nailing their card art too by using some enhanced vintage comic book images. So for me, that original spirit is shining through and through. The subtle differences are, for me, those qualities that reign supreme in today's manufacturing, just as they did when those original Megos were made. I don't know that it's possible or practical to try and nail every single nuance of manufacturing as it pertained to the 70's application. But I think the effort to get them close is very apparent. To me, it's abundantly clear the people making these are people who loved that original line. I personally think they get it, but can only control so much at the manufacturing level. I think if I want to see THAT original figure, then I will need to pull it from my collection and enjoy it as it was made in that day. But I personally believe the people making these are absolutely trying to nail them as best as they can. A heady task but one I never personally thought I would see in my life again. It's a unimaginably amazing time to be collecting Mego style figures. The licensing grab is far bigger now than it ever was in the 70's and nothing seems to be off the table of possibility as it was only five years ago.

[ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide]

I think almost everyone here wants to see FTC succeed. I think the difference comes in the issues that we are discussing. Some of the things like slight changes to the costumes or heads that are slightly too big are absolute deal-breakers to some, and don't really matter to others. So it comes down to two camps: Those that think FTC is pretty much nailing it, and those that think FTC is pretty much messing up at every turn. And the 'silent majority' that thinks they are somewhere inbetween.

To the camp that thinks FTC is doing pretty good, it becomes very tiresome to see the same complaints over and over again. When the camp that thinks FTC is messing up sees some people praising FTC, I think they believe that is 'undermining' their effort to make sure FTC hears about their complaints, which they believe is how they will be corrected.

Honestly it's almost gotten to the point where I'd be ok with a 'complaints' sub-forum being created for FTC so everyone that wants to voice their complaints could do so there so they are all in one place. I've noticed over the past few months that a few posters that used to post here regularly no longer do, and I wonder if the constant criticism is part of the reason why.

I know what the complaints are by now. I would much rather have threads where we talk about what we like with these figures versus rehashing what we hate.

[skullface]

While I think its great that everyone has added something to this thread and I thank you ALL, it has become off topic. There are like six threads covering issues with FTC. Lets assume I dont care about that (I do but not here). I was hoping this would help me pick a buying order.
I have solved that some what by spending a bunch on vintage carded megos this week,so now Im broke.

I have picked up wave 1 of the 1966 batman and have most of the limited stuff except pink cowl batman and softball Joker.
So when I get more money I need to decide between;

Spiderman three pack
Cap America three pack
pink cowl Batman
Softball Joker
Conan wave 1
66 batman wave 2

What would you do next?

[ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide]

While I think its great that everyone has added something to this thread and I thank you ALL, it has become off topic. There are like six threads covering issues with FTC. Lets assume I dont care about that (I do but not here). I was hoping this would help me pick a buying order.
I have solved that some what by spending a bunch on vintage carded megos this week,so now Im broke.

I have picked up wave 1 of the 1966 batman and have most of the limited stuff except pink cowl batman and softball Joker.
So when I get more money I need to decide between;

Spiderman three pack
Cap America three pack
pink cowl Batman
Softball Joker
Conan wave 1
66 batman wave 2

What would you do next?

Honestly, I wouldn't pre-order anything else so that takes Spidey, Cap America and Conan off the board. FTC has made subtle changes in released figures versus what they showed in the prototypes. Plus their shipping delays on pre-orders. So I now wait. And we don't know how EMCE will handle the 3-packs or what the finished product will look like so I would wait on those as well.

And I don't collect the Batman 66 stuff so all of that's off the board for me.

The Egghead and Penguin figures in the Batman 66 Wave 2 look great, but the Bruce and Dick aren't as appealing. If I were you I'd go with Egghead and Penguin and if you had to have a variant, get Pink Cowl Batman just for the novelty.

[MIB41]

So when I get more money I need to decide between;

Spiderman three pack
Cap America three pack
pink cowl Batman
Softball Joker
Conan wave 1
66 batman wave 2

What would you do next?

When I'm picking and choosing, I really go after what will bring me the most bang for my buck. So pricing does play a role if my list is equal in desire.

[invisiblelad]

I think almost everyone here wants to see FTC succeed. I think the difference comes in the issues that we are discussing. Some of the things like slight changes to the costumes or heads that are slightly too big are absolute deal-breakers to some, and don't really matter to others. So it comes down to two camps: Those that think FTC is pretty much nailing it, and those that think FTC is pretty much messing up at every turn. And the 'silent majority' that thinks they are somewhere inbetween.

To the camp that thinks FTC is doing pretty good, it becomes very tiresome to see the same complaints over and over again. When the camp that thinks FTC is messing up sees some people praising FTC, I think they believe that is 'undermining' their effort to make sure FTC hears about their complaints, which they believe is how they will be corrected.

Honestly it's almost gotten to the point where I'd be ok with a 'complaints' sub-forum being created for FTC so everyone that wants to voice their complaints could do so there so they are all in one place. I've noticed over the past few months that a few posters that used to post here regularly no longer do, and I wonder if the constant criticism is part of the reason why.
I know what the complaints are by now. I would much rather have threads where we talk about what we like with these figures versus rehashing what we hate.

ThePlayer:

Here's what I believe you are NOT seeing:

1.) Posters who have REPEATEDLY POSTED Negative Critiques of some of FTC's NEW figures (like Me) have all posted that your CONSTANT & Obvious "belittling" & very Passive-Aggressive Posts COMPLAINING repeated about every complaint you see about FTC, has literally CAUSED us to continue complaining! Why? Because every time your little "Digs" towards people (that you must think you are cleverly disguising in your comments about OUR "issues") are posted, we feel like it obviously HAS TO BE Explained why these are valid concerns. Then you would keep it up, over & over again. Because we didn't want to assume you were trolling a bunch of posters here, we wanted to try harder to explain WHY OUR personal criticisms were VALID, & why it was ridiculous for you to keep up your posts about us being on "The Negative side" or the other Negative complaing "Camp".I KNOW that you KNOW what you were doing, until your last 2-3 posts here. You had many people agreeing w/ you PLAYER, & almost everyone of them saw what you were doing & clearly turned on you. These are posters that don't normally do that to any fellow megomuseum member. Maybe I have been giving you too much credit, & your personality really doesn't see the passive aggressive attacks, catty little comments, your constant belittling of people who dare to criticize your BELOVED FTC, & the worse part....you complain about things yourself w/ FTC's products & then act like that's any different.

2.) So IF people are not posting because of the "COSTANT COMPLAINING"...WELL you ThePLAYER have GREATLY added to that problem. You have stirred up WAY more truble then I've seen since this announcement of FTC re-Megos. We would have voice pur complaints as they came in, what we hoped FTC would do to fix our "issues", & move on....If you didn't Play your little games on here. Then Again I guess "A PLAYERS GOTTA Play!"

3.) Is it above your head that MANU people that posted for years here, & posted A LOT, have literally stopped posting BECAUSE OF YOU? The Player who wants 2 have the Other Side.....right in your name,, it was clear from the beginning.

Food for thought! I have posted that 25+ of FTC figures are AWESOME to me. About a handful are OK. And about 6-8 are bad to me. That hardly makes me a FTC Hater (not that you say that). I have already spent about a Grand on all my FTC NEW DC & Btaman 66 w/ all the multiples. After preorders come in. add another $500 to that at least. $1,500 in less than a year, yeah I want FTC to go back 40 years & give us MEGO Quality bodies....& if they hail their FTC repros "exact reproductions of their mego counterparts" on their sales page, show prototypes of Megos or FTC/Mego hybrids, & WE get figures we preordered before knowing the differences on what we receive vs what FTC had shown us, yeah....we can complain....If you would let us, it would be nowhere ear the excess you see. & NO, I don't care if YOU woud be OK w/ a eperate sub-section for FTC complaints, there you gou....trying to control the SPIN again. It's not The_Player_On_The_Other_Sides_FTCmuseum. Now go open that & you'll have your Nirvana!

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PS-IF anyone agrees, can you post w/ this comment...otherwise I'll CRY because the Player won't read it because I ended up on his ignore list! I chaleenged him too many times, & it was way before I chronically complained due to his chronic complaining about complainers. It's when I clearly called him on his chit...Chat! /oh & leave this bottom part out lol!

[jayraytee]

I think almost everyone here wants to see FTC succeed. I think the difference comes in the issues that we are discussing. Some of the things like slight changes to the costumes or heads that are slightly too big are absolute deal-breakers to some, and don't really matter to others. So it comes down to two camps: Those that think FTC is pretty much nailing it, and those that think FTC is pretty much messing up at every turn. And the 'silent majority' that thinks they are somewhere inbetween.

To the camp that thinks FTC is doing pretty good, it becomes very tiresome to see the same complaints over and over again. When the camp that thinks FTC is messing up sees some people praising FTC, I think they believe that is 'undermining' their effort to make sure FTC hears about their complaints, which they believe is how they will be corrected.

Honestly it's almost gotten to the point where I'd be ok with a 'complaints' sub-forum being created for FTC so everyone that wants to voice their complaints could do so there so they are all in one place. I've noticed over the past few months that a few posters that used to post here regularly no longer do, and I wonder if the constant criticism is part of the reason why.

I know what the complaints are by now. I would much rather have threads where we talk about what we like with these figures versus rehashing what we hate.

For something to be true, the reverse must also be true;

I think almost everyone here wants to see FTC succeed. I think the difference comes in the issues that we are discussing. Some of the things like major changes to the costumes or heads that are majorly too big are absolute deal-breakers to some, and don't really matter to others. So it comes down to two camps: Those that think FTC is pretty much nailing it, and those that think FTC is pretty much messing up at every turn. And the 'silent majority' that thinks they are somewhere in between.

To the camp that thinks FTC is messing up at every turn, it becomes very tiresome to see the same praises and rationalizations over and over again. When the camp that thinks FTC is wonderful sees some people criticizing FTC, I think they believe that it is their ‘responsibility’ to undermine and belittle any criticisms they see that they think is invalid.

Honestly it's almost gotten to the point where I'd be ok with a 'praises' sub-forum being created for FTC so everyone that wants to voice their praises could do so there so they are all in one place. I've noticed over the past few months that a few posters that used to post here regularly no longer do, and I wonder if the constant praising is part of the reason why.

I know who loves FTC by now. I would much rather have threads where we talk about what needs addressed with these figures versus slobbering all over FTC.

Does that work? Actually I have been very vocal about the issues that need addressed, but I also do not believe they are missing it at every turn. If I thought they were missing it at every turn, I wouldn't buy the figures and wouldn't bother voicing the issues with them. Since I am buying them, and I pay good money for them, then I have a right to speak up about any issues they might have. I think the majority, silent or not, feels this way. I actually think there are two minority groups, those that love everything about the figures and those that hate everything about the figures and don't buy them (so they are not here.) So the minority that is actually here is more likely the few that love everything about them.

I don't see a problem with both praise and criticism, since FTC deserves both. Both are equally valid. Neither one should be relegated to a sub-forum which would imply a lesser value by the way. The main problem as I have seen it, is that one person has insisted on jumping on any percieved criticism of FTC and trying to invalidate it, in the process belittling the poster and their opinion. This is what leads to a tit for tat response. It would be the same if one person scanned the forum for any praises and obsessively had to reply to negate the praise. It's that behavior that fuels the friction, not the criticisms or praises.

[invisiblelad]

^^^OMG jayraytee, I was posting an almost identical post of another topic that you just did above in your last paragraph. I was thinking thePlayer could clearly see what he was doing & his contradictive tendencies. But Text Book is Text ////////////Book. I think I was giving too much credit & don't think he sees the shades of grey in between his proposed "TWO CAMPs". He only sees in the black & white of his opinion. Text WHAT?????

[ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide]

I don't see a problem with both praise and criticism, since FTC deserves both. Both are equally valid. Neither one should be relegated to a sub-forum which would imply a lesser value by the way. The main problem as I have seen it, is that one person has insisted on jumping on any percieved criticism of FTC and trying to invalidate it, in the process belittling the poster and their opinion. This is what leads to a tit for tat response. It would be the same if one person scanned the forum for any praises and obsessively had to reply to negate the praise. It's that behavior that fuels the friction, not the criticisms or praises.

Interesting. The way I see it is that some people here think that if someone disagrees with what they feel is a problem that it might send a 'mixed message' to FTC and cause them to not take the first person's problem seriously. I've had multiple posts aimed at me just because I disagreed on the severity of the neck plug being in or out of the body. It's no biggie in my book, but I can understand why some people like you would see it as a problem that needed to be corrected. I just don't agree with them, and that's ok. Or at least it should be.

I also think that some here feel that if FTC is praised for the figures that they need to point out the flaws to again avoid sending the 'mixed message' that it's 'ok to sell figures that aren't correctly made (to them)'. Again, I have no problem with anyone voicing complaints, I just don't see why we need to rehash the same laundry list of complaints on an almost a daily basis. If I started a thread almost daily praising the Batman Wave 3 figures, after a couple of similar threads the responses would be 'ok dude we get it, you like the figures, do you have to keep reminding us?'

The bottom line is that some people here in general like these figures, some are finding what they feel are problems. Both groups have opinions and both are equally valid. The problem starts when one group thinks that their opinion needs to be heard more than the other group's, or that their opinions are more valuable to FTC than the other groups. Which leads to shouting and rehashing, etc etc etc.

Others have tried to politely say that we need to get back to having fun with discussing this hobby versus the constant chest-beating about whose opinion is more valid. Maybe we all need to listen to what posters like MIB and BrownBear are trying to tell us.

[invisiblelad]

The Players post would be perfectly put, IF he wasn't the exact opposite of the poster he's all of sudden pretending to be,. Go back & ead your posts, people are not stupid. You got your PANTIES in a bunch EVERY SINGLE TIME Someone mentioned a complaint. You would not just state your differing opinion, you would minimize, rationalize, belittle people's "issues". I would have so much more respect for you if you didn't act like your past 4-5 posts was your posting behavior here for the past MONTHS. Nevermind. U. Don't, Won't & Can't get it. Text book, & U will waste not another second of my time. /last dig (I'm aggressive, not passive aggressive). Do you see your Megomuseum friends are dropping off left & right. Jayraytee & you were friendly a week or so ago. You have repeatedly ****ed off posters & burned bridges....the SAD part is YOU ARE GIVINNG FTC a BAD NAME! If people see all the negative posts you've inspired, FTC won't last 1/2 as long as if you let people have their opinions. I'm done & have wasted too much of my time. & I know you pretend I'm blocked, maybe I am periodically, but history & text book definitions provide proof you can't stay away from (Or GET ENOUGH OF) ATTENTION. I KNOW YOU, YOU'RE GETTING NEGATIVE ATTENTION ANY WAY YOU CAN, BECAUSE ITS ALL YOU GET I GUESS? DONE. tHANK gOD I'm DONE BEING baited by you. I truly hope you find happiness, I really do.

[fallensaviour]

While I think its great that everyone has added something to this thread and I thank you ALL, it has become off topic. There are like six threads covering issues with FTC. Lets assume I dont care about that (I do but not here). I was hoping this would help me pick a buying order.
I have solved that some what by spending a bunch on vintage carded megos this week,so now Im broke.

I have picked up wave 1 of the 1966 batman and have most of the limited stuff except pink cowl batman and softball Joker.
So when I get more money I need to decide between;

Spiderman three pack
Cap America three pack
pink cowl Batman
Softball Joker
Conan wave 1
66 batman wave 2

What would you do next?

I know what I'm doing for sure.Spiderman and cap are great but I'm really only interested in Parker and Steve so those are both out I'm not pay $60-$80 a piece just to get them.
The exclusive stuff never did it for me I often felt it was just a cheap cash grab,unless it's a new sculpt.
Just make the outfits a separate order kinda like Barbie does.
So that leaves Conan and batman 66.
I'll get Conan from Ftc and I've made steps to get penguin from the 66 line.
I'm just not feeling 66 west and ward? Not sure why but I'm just not same goes for egghead.
I like the character and the figure looks great but I'm just not feeling it.
So to sum it up Conan and penguin that's it this time.

[ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide]

I know what I'm doing for sure.Spiderman and cap are great but I'm really only interested in Parker and Steve so those are both out I'm not pay $60-$80 a piece just to get them.
The exclusive stuff never did it for me I often felt it was just a cheap cash grab,unless it's a new sculpt.
Just make the outfits a separate order kinda like Barbie does.
So that leaves Conan and batman 66.
I'll get Conan from Ftc and I've made steps to get penguin from the 66 line.
I'm just not feeling 66 west and ward? Not sure why but I'm just not same goes for egghead.
I like the character and the figure looks great but I'm just not feeling it.
So to sum it up Conan and penguin that's it this time.

I'm avoiding the Spidey 3-pack, but I'll wait and see what the reviews are for the Cap 3-pack. Those figures do look good, and I have 4 Type S bodies sitting here that didn't work right for the FTC figures. So they might be ok with the EMCE heads.

Really hope they nail the Thor 3-pack especially the Mego version. I have always loved that figure but can't bring myself to pay the big bucks for an original Mego Thor.