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  • ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
    Guest
    • Feb 27, 2014
    • 1035

    #31
    Originally posted by CrimsonGhost
    It shrinks about 6%.
    If the prototype head we've seen shrinks by 6%, then when a suit with collar is put on the figure it will look perfect.

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    • CrimsonGhost
      Often invisible
      • Jul 18, 2002
      • 3610

      #32
      The head in the photo appears to be hollow vinyl, which means it has shrunk 6% already.
      Expectation is the death of discovery.

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      • ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
        Guest
        • Feb 27, 2014
        • 1035

        #33
        Originally posted by CrimsonGhost
        The head in the photo appears to be hollow vinyl, which means it has shrunk 6% already.
        So adding the suit and collar will make it look perfect. Thanks FTC!

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        • PNGwynne
          Master of Fowl Play
          • Jun 5, 2008
          • 19950

          #34
          About as "perfect" as Mego's 12-inch Captain America.
          WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.

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          • Krypt0nite
            Radioactive!
            • Feb 13, 2010
            • 1030

            #35
            I think the issue here for most of us who are concerned about the "big head" problem is that if we just wait and see until, say, Bizarro is released and his head has not been corrected then it is unlikely that FTC will issue a corrected Bizarro later on. It is a lot more likely that they might adjust the scale on future figures but that will not help those who wanted Bizarro. It is important for those of us for whom this is a deal-breaker to speak up NOW because waiting until the figures are released will be too late.

            I guess I've been soured a bit by experiences with other companies where the head scale problem was pointed out repeatedly in prototypes, and assurances were given that the heads would shrink in production only to be disappointed again and again---to the detriment of lines I otherwise would have supported.

            If Bizarro is released and has been corrected, then I'll be a lot more willing to give FTC the benefit of the doubt on future releases.

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            • ScottA
              Original Member
              • Jun 25, 2001
              • 12264

              #36
              Don't you miss the days when new figures just showed up on the shelf and you had no idea what was coming? You guys are brutal.
              sigpic WANTED: Boxed, Carded and Kresge Carded WGSH

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              • Krypt0nite
                Radioactive!
                • Feb 13, 2010
                • 1030

                #37
                In the old days if a figure was released that was out of scale/non-proportional/etc I'd just pass on it if I didn't like it. I don't see this kind of feedback as brutal: I want to buy every figure FTC makes based on classic DC characters, so when I have a chance to interact with them or leave messages for them to read it is intended to be taken in that spirit.

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                • PNGwynne
                  Master of Fowl Play
                  • Jun 5, 2008
                  • 19950

                  #38
                  Forewarning hasn't changed my aesthetics lol.

                  Originally posted by ScottA
                  Don't you miss the days when new figures just showed up on the shelf and you had no idea what was coming? You guys are brutal.
                  WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.

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                  • TRDouble
                    Permanent Member
                    • Jul 10, 2012
                    • 2722

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ScottA
                    Don't you miss the days when new figures just showed up on the shelf and you had no idea what was coming? You guys are brutal.
                    YES!

                    And as a kid, I didn't care if the head was big or not. As a kid, I loved my Mego molded cowl head Batman. As an adult, I bought a Series 1 Batman more out of nostalgia, because as an adult, the head may be Mego Batman iconic, but it kind of suck too!

                    Maybe I just miss the days of being a kid buying toys instead of an adult buying collectibles.

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                    • CrimsonGhost
                      Often invisible
                      • Jul 18, 2002
                      • 3610

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Krypt0nite
                      I think the issue here for most of us who are concerned about the "big head" problem is that if we just wait and see until, say, Bizarro is released and his head has not been corrected then it is unlikely that FTC will issue a corrected Bizarro later on. It is a lot more likely that they might adjust the scale on future figures but that will not help those who wanted Bizarro. It is important for those of us for whom this is a deal-breaker to speak up NOW because waiting until the figures are released will be too late.

                      I guess I've been soured a bit by experiences with other companies where the head scale problem was pointed out repeatedly in prototypes, and assurances were given that the heads would shrink in production only to be disappointed again and again---to the detriment of lines I otherwise would have supported.

                      If Bizarro is released and has been corrected, then I'll be a lot more willing to give FTC the benefit of the doubt on future releases.
                      I think you're expecting changes too soon. There's about 6-9 months from sculpt to production figure so any changes implemented now wouldn't show up on figures until next spring or summer.

                      That's not set in stone or anything. I have no idea how far in advance FTC sculpts heads. I also have no idea at what point in their production they would make changes, whether it's at the sculpting stage or production stage.

                      My guess would be in production as Farrow sculpts 1/6 scale I believe, so they're already being reduced in the production stage.

                      Once FTC pays for molds to be cut, they're unlikely to have it redone just because the heads are big.

                      Anyway, I would expect any changes to be rolling changes and not all at once.
                      Last edited by CrimsonGhost; Sep 15, '14, 10:42 PM.
                      Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                      • ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
                        Guest
                        • Feb 27, 2014
                        • 1035

                        #41
                        I am hoping that Bizarro's head is released absolutely dead perfect in proportion with the rest of his body just to see who is first to claim that FTC screwed up and made it TOO SMALL. You know it's coming.

                        When Ras' prototype head was released several months ago, it was universally praised here as being a wonderful rendering of the character. Just within the last couple of weeks I've seen a couple of posters suddenly claim that it too suffered from 'big head' syndrome.

                        FTC needs to pay Doc Mego to say he is involved. All the complaints would magically disappear.

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                        • ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
                          Guest
                          • Feb 27, 2014
                          • 1035

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Krypt0nite
                          I think the issue here for most of us who are concerned about the "big head" problem is that if we just wait and see until, say, Bizarro is released and his head has not been corrected then it is unlikely that FTC will issue a corrected Bizarro later on. It is a lot more likely that they might adjust the scale on future figures but that will not help those who wanted Bizarro. It is important for those of us for whom this is a deal-breaker to speak up NOW because waiting until the figures are released will be too late.
                          I understand that, I really do, but at the same time, past history here has shown that once FTC corrects a problem that posters here have complained about, those posters simply move on to another area. The tight body was universally complained about here through the first couple of Batman waves. All the same complaints about deal-breaker, sales tanking if they didn't fix etc etc were heard then.

                          Then FTC fixed the problem with the Batman Wave 3 and 66 figures, and barely a mention was made. Then everyone started complaining about the 'big heads'. When that happens it honestly sends a message to FTC that we are going to find something to complain about regardless of what they do. It also sends the message to them that there's no point being here or engaging here.

                          Which IMO is why they don't. I think some here want to keep complaining until FTC pays attention to them but that is NOT they way to make that happen.

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                          • CrimsonGhost
                            Often invisible
                            • Jul 18, 2002
                            • 3610

                            #43
                            Originally posted by ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
                            FTC needs to pay Doc Mego to say he is involved. All the complaints would magically disappear.
                            You should go back years ago and read the criticism for the Mattel Retro-Action figures that Doc was involved in. It was WAY worse than this.
                            Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                            • ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
                              Guest
                              • Feb 27, 2014
                              • 1035

                              #44
                              Originally posted by CrimsonGhost
                              You should go back years ago and read the criticism for the Mattel Retro-Action figures that Doc was involved in. It was WAY worse than this.
                              Was there criticism of Doc? Or criticism of Mattel for not listening to what Doc told them to do?

                              I actually did go back and read the reviews of the first Star Trek figures that came out. Several mentions of how entire legs were 'squishy' and collapsed, with plenty of 'oh well I am sure they'll fix it, still thrilled to have it!' responses. I was shaking my head thinking about what the reaction would have been if FTC had done that.
                              Last edited by ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide; Sep 15, '14, 10:55 PM.

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                              • ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
                                Guest
                                • Feb 27, 2014
                                • 1035

                                #45
                                Originally posted by CrimsonGhost
                                You should go back years ago and read the criticism for the Mattel Retro-Action figures that Doc was involved in. It was WAY worse than this.
                                BTW when I first learned about the FTC figures in January I went back in the archives to see what the forum's reaction was last April when these were announced. I noticed Palitoy said he almost resigned as soon as he learned about it for fear of what the reaction here would be to the announcement.

                                That kinda says it all.

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