Robin and Joker now showing Sold Out, Product Retired on FTC & CTVT sites

[huedell]

We are finally in complete agreement.

You're still missing that 8 of the 12 figures in your proposed first 3 waves were actually in the first 3 waves.

And 3 of the 4 that weren't, are in the 4th wave.

Again, this is the part you were complaining about.....for some reason.

Again, 11 of the 12 figures you wanted in the first three waves, are coming in the first 16 figures.

All 12 will likely either be released by the end of the year, or on schedule to be released.

Enjoy.

This isn't about *ME* "enjoying".
The FOLLOWING THOUGHT is what I would have thought would've worked better for the line (and I'm directly quoting from my above post----which, at this point---I'm thinking won't help you understand my point, as this is the billionth time you have shown me you don't get what I'm saying). I thought FTC would've been more clever overall to:

"...pick similar characters, just sticking with the idea of 'more evenly distributed new Megos' and 'more evenly distributed non-civilian/non-man-in-dress suit characters' is the only changes I made..."

I don't think you get that.

And, fellow Mego-lover, it's not really a big deal. It ain't.

But because you seem to not understand what I'm saying, it (to both our chagrin) compels me to repetitively try to explain myself. I mean, it's obvious you're not getting it. It's one thing to "disagree". It's another to totally miss my point.

According to your critiques of my posts, one second I'm wanting "D-Listers" to be released right off, and the next second I'm "missing that 8 of 12 figure were actually in first three waves.... etc etc" So, I keep repeating myself ad nauseum. And I repeat myself not to be "a pest", but because you seem to be looking to nail me on being unreasonable by accusing me of a spectrum of illogical things... all of which are incorrect or that are inappropriately addressing my points.

This has never been about "product that I want"---it's always been about me "hypothesizing what subtle differences in line release decisions might make for a stronger foundation for the line"

"...pick similar characters, just sticking with the idea of 'more evenly distributed new Megos' and 'more evenly distributed non-civilian/non-man-in-dress suit characters' is the only changes I made..."

[ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide]

The FOLLOWING THOUGHT is what I would have thought would've worked better for the line (and I'm directly quoting from my above post----which, at this point---I'm thinking won't help you understand my point, as this is the billionth time you have shown me you don't get what I'm saying). I thought FTC would've been more clever overall to: I don't think you get that.

I don't. Because again, 8 of the 12 figures you said you wanted in the first 3 waves, you got. 3 of the 4 you didn't get in the first 3 waves, are coming in the 4th wave. The 12th figure has already been announced for the Batman 66 series and you'll probably get it eventually as a 'regular' Mego as well. Future waves haven't been announced, but we do know that FTC will likely move to Superman characters next, which....ironically, still follows your preferred figure assortment.

Personally if that was my desired figure assortment, I'd be pretty pleased with what FTC has done. I definitely wouldn't be on this forum saying that FTC needs to 'up their game'.

I guess I'm saying I don't think FTC missed what you claimed you wanted by enough to justify the quibbling. Unless, you just want to quibble. If so, I'll let you get to it as I've wasted enough board space on it.

[fatsal]

As a lifelong DC fan and collector, I have to say that IMO, FTC is doing a great job with this line so far. I go all the way back to original Megos, and I can't recall another company that has been so forthcoming with new reveals as FTC. If what we know so far is any indication, they are in this for the long haul, and look poised to offer a very expansive range of our favorite heroes.

As for the sellouts, this can only be a good thing. A) it means folks who have been sitting on the fence will be more inclined to buy, B) they won't be cannibalizing their sales too much by having more than one version of any character available at the same time, and C) smaller runs should equal quicker production turnarounds meaning more new figures per year!

My first post!

[pmwasson]

As a lifelong DC fan and collector, I have to say that IMO, FTC is doing a great job with this line so far. I go all the way back to original Megos, and I can't recall another company that has been so forthcoming with new reveals as FTC. If what we know so far is any indication, they are in this for the long haul, and look poised to offer a very expansive range of our favorite heroes.

As for the sellouts, this can only be a good thing. A) it means folks who have been sitting on the fence will be more inclined to buy, B) they won't be cannibalizing their sales too much by having more than one version of any character available at the same time, and C) smaller runs should equal quicker production turnarounds meaning more new figures per year!

My first post!

Nice first post as I agree completely!

[ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide]

What FTC is doing a masterful job of is using social media to keep us excited about what's coming. Look at the difference between the Marvel Spidey/Pete set and any of the Batman Waves. FTC let us know up to a year in advance that these figures were coming, then along the way gave us a constant stream of new information and content to get us more excited about them, so we were at a fever pitch by the time they went on sale. With Marvel/Diamond they just spring the announcement on us, and then nothing. So there's nothing to talk about or stay excited about. FTC is doing the exact opposite.

Great marketing strategy, BTW.

[fatsal]

What FTC is doing a masterful job of is using social media to keep us excited about what's coming...

It might just be me, but I really enjoy the peeks into the factory almost as much as I do the reveals. I always wish they'd do a How It's Made on action figures.

[Iron Mego]

It might just be me, but I really enjoy the peeks into the factory almost as much as I do the reveals. I always wish they'd do a How It's Made on action figures.

I'll second that.

[silveralex]

Question now that Wave 1 is "retired" - how large (in terms of actual units made) was Wave 1?
(and are all Waves going to about the same size ?)

[MIB41]

I think FTC has really hit a nerve with collectors all over in doing near perfect reproductions and starting lines that got overlooked. But like anything, I'm sure they are keeping production volumes in check, so they don't get stuck with massive overstock. Hopefully one day they'll get the Marvel license and recreate those lines as well.

[ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide]

Question now that Wave 1 is "retired" - how large (in terms of actual units made) was Wave 1?
(and are all Waves going to about the same size ?)

Good question in keeping all Waves the same size. I would think the first wave selling out was a signal to ramp up volume on future lines. I would guess the size of the first three waves was set regardless. If so, Wave 3 could sellout VERY quickly IMO.

[fatsal]

Question now that Wave 1 is "retired" - how large (in terms of actual units made) was Wave 1?
(and are all Waves going to about the same size ?)

Actual production numbers are typically closely guarded trade secrets, so I doubt we'll ever know for sure.

Suffice it to say, I think FTC may have found the sweet spot production-wise. Enough to satisfy the masses, but not so much as to have to have these clearanced out. While waiting for a lower price is definitely helpful to us collectors in the short term (and these babies aren't cheap), one has to remember the retailers play a big role in the long term success of this line too. The more they have to sell at a discount, the less inclined they'll be to keep ordering/stocking future product. I doubt FTC can make an order from the factory without commitments from retailers first.

[fatsal]

Good question in keeping all Waves the same size. I would think the first wave selling out was a signal to ramp up volume on future lines. I would guess the size of the first three waves was set regardless. If so, Wave 3 could sellout VERY quickly IMO.

I don't know if they should up their numbers just yet. It could just as easily mean that whatever the run for W1 was is exactly the right number (for now, at least). However, I suspect (or at least hope) that we are at the ground floor of what may be looked back on as one of the great superhero lines of all time. If so, we might expect a surge of new collectors to come in as teh buzz spreads.

Of course my personal enthusiasm may be biasing me a bit, but I can't recall any other DC line that was as forthcoming about their (big) plans as FTC has been so early on. Mattel sure did a hell of a lot with the DCUC line, but even then, having big box retail in the equation meant they weren't able to do some things I think even they wanted to. FTC seems to understand its collectors AND they seem to know their retailers too. That's a win-win for us, methinks.

[GhostLord]

I'm glad I got the first wave when I did. I'm so pleased they sold well.

[huedell]

As a lifelong DC fan and collector, I have to say that IMO, FTC is doing a great job with this line so far. I go all the way back to original Megos, and I can't recall another company that has been so forthcoming with new reveals as FTC. If what we know so far is any indication, they are in this for the long haul, and look poised to offer a very expansive range of our favorite heroes.

As for the sellouts, this can only be a good thing. A) it means folks who have been sitting on the fence will be more inclined to buy, B) they won't be cannibalizing their sales too much by having more than one version of any character available at the same time, and C) smaller runs should equal quicker production turnarounds meaning more new figures per year!

My first post!

First post...hmmm. Are you the Super Powers customizer "Fat Sal"?

[fatsal]

First post...hmmm. Are you the Super Powers customizer "Fat Sal"?

I am (or rather, I was). That was many, many moons ago!