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  • megomania
    Persistent Member
    • Jan 2, 2010
    • 2175

    #31
    Originally posted by ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
    When I saw this posted my first thought was I wish Mickey was still here to have given us a heads up on stuff like this.
    Dude his avatar is a dead giveaway. As soon as he joined and I saw his jaws pic I knew he was trying to tell us FTC would be releasing this. But it was a silent tease. You know....cause mums the word and all.

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    • Vinny0026
      Year Five!!
      • Jan 26, 2012
      • 3734

      #32
      I have been so buzy with the kids have not had time for the boards.

      You will see this item for sure (IMO)
      and I can't wait to get one!
      "Where Does He Get Those Wonderful Toys?"

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      • Bronxboykev
        Permanent Member
        • Mar 7, 2011
        • 3013

        #33
        I don't think you will see it for less than $75. Figuring $25 for Aquaman $50 for the shark, If its going to be non functional. If they do make it functional which I think they have to, then double the price. IMO

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        • Vinny0026
          Year Five!!
          • Jan 26, 2012
          • 3734

          #34
          Originally posted by Bronxboykev
          I don't think you will see it for less than $75. Figuring $25 for Aquaman $50 for the shark, If its going to be non functional. If they do make it functional which I think they have to, then double the price. IMO
          IMO this will be non functional for sure
          Most people that will buy this will be a display piece and will not even open it - so to pay all that extra money to have it made to be a functional piece is just wasted

          Thats my guess
          this will easy be in the 50-75 range (again IMO)

          I'll take non working shark display at that price, as I think most will. I mean Most took Chads for 200 and that is non functional.
          50-75 range these will sell great - no one wants to pay 16 grand for one (even if they had 16 grand)

          If they put this up for presale today at that range I would be all over it
          "Where Does He Get Those Wonderful Toys?"

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          • ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
            Guest
            • Feb 27, 2014
            • 1035

            #35
            Originally posted by megomania
            Dude his avatar is a dead giveaway. As soon as he joined and I saw his jaws pic I knew he was trying to tell us FTC would be releasing this. But it was a silent tease. You know....cause mums the word and all.
            The 'silent teasing' from Mickey never bothered me at all, in fact many here said it was a lot of fun. So what if he was vague and so what if he knew something you didn't? The 'guessing games' are a lot more fun than beating dead 'big head' horses.
            Last edited by ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide; Sep 16, '14, 8:18 AM.

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            • ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
              Guest
              • Feb 27, 2014
              • 1035

              #36
              Originally posted by Vinny0026
              IMO this will be non functional for sure
              Most people that will buy this will be a display piece and will not even open it - so to pay all that extra money to have it made to be a functional piece is just wasted

              Thats my guess
              this will easy be in the 50-75 range (again IMO)

              I'll take non working shark display at that price, as I think most will. I mean Most took Chads for 200 and that is non functional.
              50-75 range these will sell great - no one wants to pay 16 grand for one (even if they had 16 grand)

              If they put this up for presale today at that range I would be all over it
              If it was in that range and the packaging was a perfect replica of the original as well, I'd be interested. That's why the Chad guy was getting $250 cause the packaging was true to the original. If FTC comes out with its 'Mego-version' of the packaging, it will really kill the interest in this set, at least for me. But if it sells well and others love it then great, that could pave the way for more playsets.

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              • thunderbolt
                Hi Ernie!!!
                • Feb 15, 2004
                • 34211

                #37
                Be cool if they did one in scale for the 66 line. Batman needs something to use his repellant on.
                You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                • invisiblelad
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 6, 2014
                  • 461

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
                  The 'silent teasing' from Mickey never bothered me at all, in fact many here said it was a lot of fun. So what if he was vague and so what if he knew something you didn't? The 'guessing games' are a lot more fun than beating dead 'big head' horses.
                  WOW I was actually in complete agreement with every word ThePlayerOnThe Other side was saying in his above post!.....BUTT....THEN ThePLAYER once again proved an obsessed passive-aggressive personality type not seeing the irony of 1 person OBSESSIVELY COMPLAINING & comenting on MANY posters' complaints/fears of FTC going the way of BBP due to BIG HEADED figures! I saw nobody complain about big heads for awhile here....until the Jayna prototype was shown. But even in the days of BIG HEAD complaining being absent, ThePLAYER couldn't take the peace. He soon started putting little digs in his little comments about people having "issues" w/ the Big Head thing. Passive-aggressive personalities are so transparent it bothers me. I guess its because I'm aggressive in that sense. It's too bad That he wants TWO SIDES for drama here. I liked it before when we all wanted great things from FTC, but love mego toys so much we are here to discuss them & can voice our concerns whenever or however we want without someone taking so personally. I always laugh at someone obsessed with complaining about complainers. LOL is all I can do. He has a book he authored that has great reviews on amazon. He's obviously very intelligent. So I decedided to google him to put a face to the name ThePlayer.

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                  • Vinny0026
                    Year Five!!
                    • Jan 26, 2012
                    • 3734

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
                    If it was in that range and the packaging was a perfect replica of the original as well, I'd be interested. That's why the Chad guy was getting $250 cause the packaging was true to the original. If FTC comes out with its 'Mego-version' of the packaging, it will really kill the interest in this set, at least for me. But if it sells well and others love it then great, that could pave the way for more playsets.
                    Look you guys should know this by now - FTC does not have the rights to the original artwork that mego used
                    That is why they use their own art work.

                    I'm sure the art they choose will come very close - but I hardley doubt it will be the original art
                    Also the good thing about CTV not using original artwork also allows them to put their stamp on something. Most of us like original mego artwork because that is how we grew up.

                    But there is nothing wrong with them putting their own mark on the remakes

                    I'm pretty sure - no matter what artwork they put on the box (as long as it is cool and somewhat in line with the original concept) That these are not only going to sell - but they will sell good.



                    again this is IMO - the shark should cost just about the same as a figure to make - its only a piece of plastic. (again IMO they go with non working shark)
                    So I'm looking at these to cost the same give or take as the normal CTV 2 packs. Maybe a few bucks more due to the size of the box. I would be shocked if these were more than 75
                    odds are they will be between 60 & 75. At that price I'm all in. I have no intention on opening it. I'm sure what ever art they pick will display well enough for this one piece.

                    I just dont see why they would want to make a working/ functional shark
                    it would cost so much more to make and sell and then if there were problems with it - deal with returns.

                    they know in this case it is only a display piece
                    if people wanted to play with it - they would just buy a aquaman figure and go to the dollar tree/ dollar store and get a rubber shark
                    "Where Does He Get Those Wonderful Toys?"

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                    • Vinny0026
                      Year Five!!
                      • Jan 26, 2012
                      • 3734

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ThePlayerOnTheOtherSide
                      But if it sells well and others love it then great, that could pave the way for more playsets.
                      Honestly I see this having nothing to do with future playsets
                      This is a stand alone piece - it costs far less to make than say a Batcave or hall of justice

                      It is just a normal figure which they already make - a plastic shark and some cool art work/ box.

                      Playsets cost far more to make, cost more to ship and take up a ton of space.

                      So just because fish boy and his shark date sells well - it does not mean they will jump to make the batcave.

                      Maybe they do him with a sea horse next, maybe they do a flash and a gorilla grood, or superman verse lex in a battle suit, or superman verse toyman in a toy robot etc..
                      cause they are still pretty much cheap to make and they can make a profit on it.

                      but I doubt if this sells or not will effect or change their mind on the batcave or hall of justice.
                      if they plan on making those they will, if they did not plan on them they will not. Salse of fishboy will not change their mind (IMO)
                      "Where Does He Get Those Wonderful Toys?"

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                      • scott metzger
                        Persistent Member
                        • Jul 9, 2007
                        • 2174

                        #41
                        Originally posted by thunderbolt
                        Be cool if they did one in scale for the 66 line. Batman needs something to use his repellant on.
                        That might actually make such a thing possible. Re-use is the buzz word nowadays in the action figure industry.

                        The problem with something like the shark is that it requires a full set of new molds that, as is, can only be used once. That is a major expenditure of thousands of dollars for a single piece. It also requires full R&D from scratch, which adds to the expense. Just look at the cost of the bat accessories which required the same kind of development, and add a much bigger set of molds and more plastic to get an idea of the cost we'd probably need to pay for the finished product just to make an Aquaman/shark set profitable for them. Now, if they used the aforementioned idea and released the same shark in a gray color snapped onto a '66 Batman's leg, then they get two sets out of the molds, and that would actually make the cost more palatable to them. I can say, give Bats a can of Bat Shark Repellent Spray and you'd have a sale from me on both sets.

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                        • Vinny0026
                          Year Five!!
                          • Jan 26, 2012
                          • 3734

                          #42
                          Originally posted by scott metzger
                          That might actually make such a thing possible. Re-use is the buzz word nowadays in the action figure industry.

                          The problem with something like the shark is that it requires a full set of new molds that, as is, can only be used once. That is a major expenditure of thousands of dollars for a single piece. It also requires full R&D from scratch, which adds to the expense. Just look at the cost of the bat accessories which required the same kind of development, and add a much bigger set of molds and more plastic to get an idea of the cost we'd probably need to pay for the finished product just to make an Aquaman/shark set profitable for them. Now, if they used the aforementioned idea and released the same shark in a gray color snapped onto a '66 Batman's leg, then they get two sets out of the molds, and that would actually make the cost more palatable to them. I can say, give Bats a can of Bat Shark Repellent Spray and you'd have a sale from me on both sets.
                          great idea from both of you guys
                          "Where Does He Get Those Wonderful Toys?"

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                          • Bronxboykev
                            Permanent Member
                            • Mar 7, 2011
                            • 3013

                            #43
                            [QUOTE=Vinny0026;1161186]


                            Maybe they do him with a sea horse next,


                            and one for Aqualad as well!!! That would be cool!

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                            • thunderbolt
                              Hi Ernie!!!
                              • Feb 15, 2004
                              • 34211

                              #44
                              There is someone here that has done all the leg work, they'd just have to float him a nice fat check. I'm thinking they could reduce the size to fit Batman's sharky pal from the movie.

                              Originally posted by scott metzger
                              That might actually make such a thing possible. Re-use is the buzz word nowadays in the action figure industry.

                              The problem with something like the shark is that it requires a full set of new molds that, as is, can only be used once. That is a major expenditure of thousands of dollars for a single piece. It also requires full R&D from scratch, which adds to the expense. Just look at the cost of the bat accessories which required the same kind of development, and add a much bigger set of molds and more plastic to get an idea of the cost we'd probably need to pay for the finished product just to make an Aquaman/shark set profitable for them. Now, if they used the aforementioned idea and released the same shark in a gray color snapped onto a '66 Batman's leg, then they get two sets out of the molds, and that would actually make the cost more palatable to them. I can say, give Bats a can of Bat Shark Repellent Spray and you'd have a sale from me on both sets.
                              You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                              • scott metzger
                                Persistent Member
                                • Jul 9, 2007
                                • 2174

                                #45
                                [QUOTE=Bronxboykev;1161200]
                                Originally posted by Vinny0026


                                Maybe they do him with a sea horse next,


                                and one for Aqualad as well!!! That would be cool!
                                I have wanted a Mego scaled seahorse since the days of Mego. Something like that could easily be hollow/rotocast to save on materials cost. And we have re-use: a different color for Aquaman, Aqualad and even Mera if she gets made (Wouldn't that make a cool gift pack? All three with their rides?)

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