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  • Mr.Marion
    Permanent Member
    • Sep 15, 2014
    • 2733

    Bootlegs vs. Knockoffs?

    Which do you like collecting more?

    Bootlegs are unlicensed product like Uzay Star Wars or the 10" blow mold Super Powers.

    Knockoffs are professionally done riding a trend like Mr. Rock, Captain Eagle, etc.
  • SeattleEd
    SynthoRes Transmigrator
    • Oct 24, 2007
    • 4350

    #2
    There is a third and falls in between both, art toys, which is a subculture of the toy collectors and artists. I like this area the most and collect the most but I really like Knockoffs for the pukka value and the bootlegs are just a world of fun and strange. Especially stuff found in a tianguis in Mexico.

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    • Confessional
      Maker & Whatnot
      • Aug 8, 2012
      • 3411

      #3
      Yeah, I'm with Ed as an equal opportunist; hell there might even be a fourth/fifth with bootlegs of KOs/KOs of bootlegs… also *professional* can have a very different connotation in vintage and contemporary international/non-western markets.

      Kinda silly to pick one over another, as they all have such redeeming qualities and contribute to more interesting toy lineage.
      Last edited by Confessional; Feb 16, '22, 11:11 PM. Reason: …shades of gray are learned!

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      • KingKickass1983
        Career Member
        • Jan 19, 2019
        • 591

        #4
        Whatever looks cool.

        I love KOs, but bootlegs have their place too.

        If I'm working on a custom figure, would prefer to use a bootleg just so I wouldn't feel as bad ripping apart a toy for parts.
        Wanted:

        Diamond select Spider-man hands. Long shot, I know...but ya never know..

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        • rche
          channeling Bob Wills
          • Mar 26, 2008
          • 7387

          #5
          I can't really say I prefer one over the other. The Tomland Star Raiders are sort of riding both of those camps and they are some of my favorite things to hunt for.
          Sometimes, I am really enamored by the alternate world one gets into when they see an official toyline that was released in another country. Lili Ledy heroes, for example. That feels to me like living my childhood, but in a parallel world or something along those lines. There is s certain world of the bootleg that tends to become grotesque due to the rushed or unprofessional techniques used to make the toy. Some of those I view with a sort of car crash, had to look mentality, although I don't think I would want to ever pay to put them in my collection.

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          • Mikey
            Verbose Member
            • Aug 9, 2001
            • 47243

            #6
            I'm way more of a fan off bootlegs

            As a former Beatles record collecting fan I would rather own a "classic" Beatles bootleg like Alpha-Omega or even Yellow Matter Custard (not the tribute band) instead of a rip-off Butcher copy.

            Same goes for toys (for me)

            IMO, boots (in their own way) are art
            Last edited by Mikey; Feb 17, '22, 5:34 PM.

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            • SeattleEd
              SynthoRes Transmigrator
              • Oct 24, 2007
              • 4350

              #7
              Originally posted by Mikey
              I'm way more of a fan off bootlegs

              As a former Beatles record collecting fan I would rather own a "classic" Beatles bootleg like Alpha-Omega or even Yellow Matter Custard (not the tribute band) instead of a rip-off Butcher copy.

              Same goes for toys (for me)

              IMO, boots (in their own way) are art
              Mikey, this is rabbit hole to go down into. Talking Beatles bootlegs on vinyl. LOL.
              Alpha-Omega is a pirated album, not a bootleg as is lifted the tracks from other Capitol releases and compiled to a new release under an unauthorized label, Audiotape, Inc. Yellow Matter Custard was a bootleg as those live tracks were never released in any format except in this collection from Trademark of Quality 71032 in 1972. However, by today's legal definition it now falls under pirated if it were to be release again, which it won't, since these tracks have been released under the BBC Apple Records releases.

              I own a Butcher Copy on vinyl that was made in Japan. Everything is an exact replica of the original even with the textured cover and proper etched marks on the inner groove. Love it since I can't afford an original one. Happy to have the official CD that was recently released.

              Agreed with bootlegs being are, underground art and in some circles, an honor.

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