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  • enyawd72
    Maker of Monsters!
    • Oct 1, 2009
    • 7904

    Why didn't Galoob dominate the action figure market?

    In looking at some of the stuff they made in the 80's, I'm amazed they didn't become THE action figure company. Their Star Trek TNG figures are superior to the Kenner Star Wars figures of the same period in almost every aspect. The in-scale sculpts, better paint apps, and they have knee articulation! They're at least as good as Super Powers.

    Likewise, Their Defenders of the Earth series blow Mattel's Secret Wars out of the water. Larger scale, incredibly detailed paint apps, knee articulation, and individual painted card art. The paintwork on Ming in particular is amazing! Secret Wars had nice sculpts but everything else was cheaply done. Magneto and Dr. Doom don't even have capes.
  • Nostalgiabuff
    Muddling through
    • Oct 4, 2008
    • 11423

    #2
    on the other hand, the Next gen figures had phasers molded into their hands. i don't know that i would call them superior to Kenners Star Wars figures just because of knee articulation. don't forget they came out a few years after the last release of SW, which i believe was 1985.
    I also think secret Wars was cooler looking and although not always acurate in what the figures came with, they were still better or at least on par with the Defenders line

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    • PNGwynne
      Master of Fowl Play
      • Jun 5, 2008
      • 19907

      #3
      I think the Defenders figures are awfully sharp, although I dislike the die-cast element.
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      • palitoy
        live. laugh. lisa needs braces
        • Jun 16, 2001
        • 59772

        #4
        Thye made great toys but the properties didn't turn kids on, Defenders came when there was a glut of Superhero merch on the market and let's face it, Mandrake was never a big deal. TNG had a shaky start as a series and the Galoob stuff came too soon. Once the show hit syndication Playmates cleaned up with the license, the exact same thing happened with the Simpsons line.
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        • toys2cool
          Ultimate Mego Warrior
          • Nov 27, 2006
          • 28605

          #5
          I liked galoob but Kenner was way better
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          • Figuremod73
            That 80's guy
            • Jul 27, 2011
            • 3017

            #6
            I think the best thing I saw Galoob do was the Blackstar line. I did like Defender of the earth. Not as good of a company as Kenner though.

            Last edited by Figuremod73; Feb 17, '13, 5:11 PM. Reason: earth not planets!

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            • Werewolf
              Inhuman
              • Jul 14, 2003
              • 14964

              #7
              I hated the Galoob STNG figures had the phasers molded into their hands. Absolutely hated that. Even with the knee articulation, I don't think they were better than Kenner's SW figures. The little Shuttlecraft was nice but playwise it was a boring line for kids. Luke, Han and Darth are much more fun for kids to play with than Picard, Riker and Q. Their most fun toys in the 80s were A-Team and Blackstar.
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              • mazinz
                Persistent Member
                • Jul 2, 2007
                • 2249

                #8
                It had to do with the actual lines themselves. Kids (Remember I said kids, not adults) will find Stars Wars always cooler than Star Trek and likewise Marvel Superheros will blow Defenders of the Earth out of the water since you cannot compete with Spiderman and Wolverine

                Had Galoob acquired a DC comic license or something along those lines to produce better known characters then that might have made the gears shift towards them
                Last edited by mazinz; Feb 17, '13, 2:18 PM.
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                • jwyblejr
                  galactic yo-yo
                  • Apr 6, 2006
                  • 11147

                  #9
                  Galoob didn't fair well because Hasbro had the one-two punch of G.I. Joe and Transformers.

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                  • Figuremod73
                    That 80's guy
                    • Jul 27, 2011
                    • 3017

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jwyblejr
                    Galoob didn't fair well because Hasbro had the one-two punch of G.I. Joe and Transformers.
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                    • B-Lister
                      Eccentric Weirdo
                      • Mar 19, 2010
                      • 3071

                      #11
                      The problem was licenses and timing. Galoob was simply too EARLY with the Star Trek license, and Defenders of the Earth was a weak property. Yes I love Flash Gordon and the Phantom (and even Mandrake). But those characters' heydays were long gone by the 80s which is why the cartoon didn't fare well. Too many opportunities missed and you get absorbed by Hasbro, which is what happened.
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                      • enyawd72
                        Maker of Monsters!
                        • Oct 1, 2009
                        • 7904

                        #12
                        I agree with what most have said about the weak properties Galoob had to work with, but I would've thought licensors would see the quality of their product and pursue them. I guess Remco was in the same boat though. I think their 3 3/4 monster figures blow away the 3 3/4 Star Wars figures of the same year.

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                        • turnbolt
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 26, 2008
                          • 424

                          #13
                          But I sure love their A-team, Golden Girl and Blackstar lines.

                          Too bad the properties were weak.
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                          • ctc
                            Fear the monkeybat!
                            • Aug 16, 2001
                            • 11183

                            #14
                            Hmmmm....

                            They did a lot of good stuff, but I think the biggest problem was that they were shouted down by lines that had more exposure; like anything from Hasbro/Sunbow. The mid 80's saw a glut of action figures, so it was hard for them to get any press. On top of that, a lot of their stuff was too expensive to go the impulse buy route.

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                            • Earth 2 Chris
                              Verbose Member
                              • Mar 7, 2004
                              • 32932

                              #15
                              Galoob made a butt-load of money off Micro-Machines, though! Which is why Hasbro eventually gobbled them up.

                              They did make good action figures (the Defenders of the Earth were really, REALLY nicely done figures), but as others said, the properties weren't what kids were after.

                              TNG had a pretty crappy reception amongst kids when it came out, and no wonder. The show was stuffy and boring in it's first few seasons. Molding phasers in the hands of characters who barely used them didn't help.

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