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  • spacecaps
    Second Mouse
    • Aug 24, 2011
    • 2093

    Kenner Alien Help

    Back in the 90's I purchased a prototype/test shot Kenner Alien and have had it sitting in my living room for some time. A few weeks ago, I took it to a friend who is in the know on these sort of things and we went over some of the serious differences between the release Kenner Alien, Tsukuda model and this one...I'll list the variations here but take a look at the pics and let me know what you think...
    1. The major difference is obviously the tail. The one that I have is bent in completely different way. The actual released one has the tail coming out his back and curling up under his legs. My tail spirals down and acts as a "third leg" and allows the figure to stand on his own with more support.
    2. The inner jaws are painted in an off-white color similar to the glow paint on the head, however this is not glow paint. Also the teeth are left chrome.
    3. The toenails of the alien are also painted the same color too. The teeth and feet paint were not something done recently as it has wear and the paint looks very similar used on other Kenner toys at the time.
    4. The legs are secured in position. They are not simply glued. If you look in between the space between the legs and torso, you can see white washers (for lack of a better term) holding the legs in place.
    5. The dome has been glued onto the head but expertly cut in half so the back of the dome is permanently secured to the head but the front is removable in order to see the face and glow paint.
    6. After comparing the Alien to my friends, the plastic looks to be a shade darker than his but its very slight and may be just different aging.
    7. The arms of my Alien are still intact...which is not uncommon but very rare to have one with the original arm rubber.
    After looking at this and comparing it to another Alien, the conclusion we came to is that this Alien is a legit Kenner Convention display piece used to showcase the toy prior to its release. I don't think it is a true prototype as it has the copy-write date on the trigger to the mouth piece. Also the differences that this one has is not something someone just did to customize. The look of everything is just too "natural" for that and things like the paint on the jaws is silly..it's so minor you can hardly notice it.
    So what your opinion....
    Alien :: DSC_0141.jpg picture by spacecaps - Photobucket
    Last edited by spacecaps; May 23, '12, 10:35 PM.
    "Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you."
  • Bruce Banner
    HULK SMASH!
    • Apr 3, 2010
    • 4335

    #2
    Interesting.

    Never seen a Kenner Alien with a tail like that.

    Tsukuda Hobby made an almost exact replica of the Kenner Alien figure back around 1984, but the one in your photo isn't the Tsukuda one, either.
    Last edited by Bruce Banner; Sep 21, '11, 5:25 AM.
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    • ctc
      Fear the monkeybat!
      • Aug 16, 2001
      • 11183

      #3
      Hmmmm....

      Weird. You might be right that it's a display/promotional one. The modifications would all be pretty easy to do.... except maybe replacing the rubber parts, but that might have been done to improve the display, or as repairs.

      Don C.

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      • spacecaps
        Second Mouse
        • Aug 24, 2011
        • 2093

        #4
        Still curious about this if anyone else would like to weigh in.....
        "Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you."

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        • samsallspark
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 17, 2010
          • 381

          #5
          I think you might have a prototype!

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          • tylerh
            Museum Patron
            • Sep 14, 2011
            • 143

            #6
            check for copyright info and production stamps on it - Not sure where they are but if they arent there, that could be a sign its a first shot -

            To me though, it sounds like something that a parent might have just done for a kid - The chances of coming across a prototype "in the wild" - although it has happened, are very very slim

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            • spacecaps
              Second Mouse
              • Aug 24, 2011
              • 2093

              #7
              Like I mentioned, there is a copy-write on the mouth trigger but bending the tail , I guess by heating it, permanently fixing the legs to a set position, painting the inner part of the mouth, painting the toe nails, cutting the dome, just isn't the normal type of custom. Also the foot is cracked at the bottom too so if your going through all the trouble of fixing it up, why not fix that. And yes, I do acknowledge that this could have been modified at some point but comparing it to another Alien, its just so different.
              "Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you."

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              • tylerh
                Museum Patron
                • Sep 14, 2011
                • 143

                #8
                My guess would be that it was something a parent did for a kid at one point - Maybe the legs got too loose and they used the washers? Maybe the kid was mad it couldnt stand so they bent the tail with a hairdryer? Some of the changes ARE goofy, people do goofy things - Maybe they all werent done at the same time?

                Or maybe it was set up like that as a counter display at a toy store selling the figure? The only time I have legitimately heard of Kenner prototypes / displays being found randomly was from garage sales, etc- in the Cincinnati area (home of kenner) -- So if you are in that area, maybe? But otehrwise it sounds like this was all done aftermarket either by a parent or a toy store (To me at least )

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                • spacecaps
                  Second Mouse
                  • Aug 24, 2011
                  • 2093

                  #9
                  Good insight tylerh... Incidentally, this did come from Illinois which is not exactly Cincinnati but a heck of a lot closer to it then I am...who knows how many times this changed hands before it wound up with me...
                  Last edited by spacecaps; May 23, '12, 10:31 PM.
                  "Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you."

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                  • tylerh
                    Museum Patron
                    • Sep 14, 2011
                    • 143

                    #10
                    I mean, stranger things have happened - a few years ago someone in Australia randomly posted a photo of his toy speederbike from Return of the Jedi because he found it and it "looked different"
                    than the ones he saw now - and I forget how A got to Z but in the end it was discovered to be the handmade photo sample used by Toltoys (The 'kenner' of australia) for a poster or catalog featuring the toyline.

                    There are a lot of good aliens collector sites out there so you should find some answers if you take good pics and join a few message boards! Good luck!

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                    • tylerh
                      Museum Patron
                      • Sep 14, 2011
                      • 143

                      #11
                      on a side note - If it turns out to be something that was just done by a person or kid for some odd reason, might be worth "restoring" back to unmolested condition --- Its a great toy

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                      • spacecaps
                        Second Mouse
                        • Aug 24, 2011
                        • 2093

                        #12
                        About restoring it back...

                        Actually after comparing the two Aliens, my friend & I concluded that this is the way it should have been made..its a better design than what's out there... although I don't think kids back in the day would have approved of the legs not bending..especially since Kenner promoted the "bend over position" so prominently on the box art and commercial!
                        "Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you."

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                        • tylerh
                          Museum Patron
                          • Sep 14, 2011
                          • 143

                          #13
                          ya, esp the poor fitting clear dome! Look for a collector named Tracey Hamilton online - google his name and Im sure itll come up on a lot of forums - I think he collects aliens toy prototypes (he used to at least) and can probably help identify, or at least maybe push you in the right direction!

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                          • spacecaps
                            Second Mouse
                            • Aug 24, 2011
                            • 2093

                            #14
                            Will do! Good lookin out...
                            "Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you."

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