Jumbo Machinders question

[cjefferys]

it was a subtle move by Mattel, they did not exactly advertise both as two separate characters. They just kind of replaced one with the other

Technically, both releases were the same robot, Great Mazinger. The first version, which was closer in looks to the Popy Great Mazinger, was just called "Mazinga" by Mattel, while the later version, which strayed farther from Popy's original toy design was given the proper "Great" prefix in front of his name. (all versions have "Great Mazinger/Mazinga" written in Japanese katakana characters on the gold "belt" sticker). Popy's Mazinger Z (a completely different robot) never received a US release by Mattel. Confused yet?

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Good trade

[mazinz]

it was a subtle move by Mattel, they did not exactly advertise both as two separate characters. They just kind of replaced one with the other


All of my Shoguns I kind of acquired after their run (though still early to mid 80's when I got them). My mother would not buy them for me because of the firing pieces many of them had (though somehow I did eventually get Godzilla and Rodan).

I think most of you will like this

I traded the super joe 6 legged monster (forgot his name) and Mattel's Krusher for Mazinga (all pieces good shape, trade done in 1st grade)

later in third grade I traded he-man (just that one figure only) for Dragun!!!

[ctc]

>his had the non removable Brain Condor, less missiles and a goofy looking chest sticker instead of the cool plastic chestpiece. We both thought that he really got ripped off.

I remember puzzling that one out with a friend too. Had no idea the one with removable mrain was Great Mazinger and the one with the little bubble was Mazinger Z. We thought they were ALWAYS meant to represent the same character.

....stupid kids....

Don C.

[mazinz]

I have two Great Mazingas, but only one Mazinga. One day I will bother to get another great mazinga and rip out the plane to shove it into the first Mazinga's head

[cjefferys]

Yep, my Mazinga has the removable "Brain Condor". I remember my friend getting his Mazinga a year after I did, and by then stores were selling the last issued version, so his had the non removable Brain Condor, less missiles and a goofy looking chest sticker instead of the cool plastic chestpiece. We both thought that he really got ripped off.

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you know once you mentioned white rockets I went into my toy room. I do have the Mazinga with white rockets (and box in another closet), sadly mine does not have the miniship which is why I think in the early 90's I got him super cheap from a no longer existing antique shop by me.

thats first issue 78-79, the mimi ship (Brain) was first removeable, later versions it was gluded in

[mazinz]

re

Jumbos have yet to be immortalized in a quality english language reference publication, certainly nothing comparable to the info offered in Benjamin's WGT masterpiece anyway!

Hopefully that will change someday, I did hear a rumor ages ago that someone was working on a book, wonder if that has progressed?

In the meantime the best resources are still old sites such as jumboland or ToyboxDX's collector's site CollectionDX.

There are a couple of very nice book and mook publications, but apart from Super # 1 Robot they are all in Japanese. S#1R has nice single photos of all the Jumbos but no accompanying text of the type you might expect with a toy reference book. More of a mini coffee-table style homage to Jumbos really, but still a must have.

And back on topic it sounds like Chris is on the money, a Mazinga is what you have. He may still have his sword(s), they are the red bits sticking out the top of hips, they are removable but often mistakenly thought to be part of the body mold.

The toughest non-European released Mazinger IMO is the white rocket version , you'll get about double the price of a red rocket release if you have that one and chose to sell it. Don't sell it though, buy another. and another. and another..... he he!

Cheers,
Will

you know once you mentioned white rockets I went into my toy room. I do have the Mazinga with white rockets (and box in another closet), sadly mine does not have the miniship which is why I think in the early 90's I got him super cheap from a no longer existing antique shop by me.

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I remember 76-77 watching the japanese channel in NYS and they would have the Raideen cartoon show and Mazinga,
a commerical for Raideen come on Talk about differnt from the matel, Hec ame with a bunch of accessories like a 3 ball lancher ,missle lancher ,he trun in to a robot hawk bird , his Bow and arrow arm worked it was fantastic. His arm were jointed at the elbow.

[cjefferys]

I was going to post that wildtoys link but forgot. That's the best online resource for the US versions that I've seen.

Jumbos have yet to be immortalized in a quality english language reference publication, certainly nothing comparable to the info offered in Benjamin's WGT masterpiece anyway!

Hopefully that will change someday, I did hear a rumor ages ago that someone was working on a book, wonder if that has progressed?

In the meantime the best resources are still old sites such as jumboland or ToyboxDX's collector's site CollectionDX.

There are a couple of very nice book and mook publications, but apart from Super # 1 Robot they are all in Japanese. S#1R has nice single photos of all the Jumbos but no accompanying text of the type you might expect with a toy reference book. More of a mini coffee-table style homage to Jumbos really, but still a must have.

I think it was Ben himself that was supposed to be planning a Jumbo Machinder book next. Come on Ben, I promise I'll buy 3 copies if you do it.

Will posted some good links too. Sean Bonner's Jumboland is great, even if it hasn't been updated in about 10 years. The greatly missed CoolJapaneseToys also had some good info, but it's sadly gone. ToyboxDX.com has some good info (and a forum- this is their vintage toy one: http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/list.php?4 ) and Robot Japan has a good Jumbo forum too: http://robotjapan.proboards.com/inde...ard=PopyJumbos

Super #1 Robot is a great book, but too bad it only features a couple Jumbo photos (it mostly focuses on diecast Chogokin). Another great book that has a lot of Jumbo pics was released in Japan (I forget the author though). Unfortunately it's a small format paperback book. The photos are great though, it should have been a big coffee table book.

[Gorn Captain]

Here they are: eight of them (the 24 inch ones).

Google Afbeeldingen resultaat voor http://www.wildtoys.com/Shogun/shoguns!.jpg

I'm still missing Daimos, Godzilla and Rodan.

[Sowth]

Jumbos have yet to be immortalized in a quality english language reference publication, certainly nothing comparable to the info offered in Benjamin's WGT masterpiece anyway!

Hopefully that will change someday, I did hear a rumor ages ago that someone was working on a book, wonder if that has progressed?

In the meantime the best resources are still old sites such as jumboland or ToyboxDX's collector's site CollectionDX.

There are a couple of very nice book and mook publications, but apart from Super # 1 Robot they are all in Japanese. S#1R has nice single photos of all the Jumbos but no accompanying text of the type you might expect with a toy reference book. More of a mini coffee-table style homage to Jumbos really, but still a must have.

And back on topic it sounds like Chris is on the money, a Mazinga is what you have. He may still have his sword(s), they are the red bits sticking out the top of hips, they are removable but often mistakenly thought to be part of the body mold.

The toughest non-European released Mazinger IMO is the white rocket version , you'll get about double the price of a red rocket release if you have that one and chose to sell it. Don't sell it though, buy another. and another. and another..... he he!

Cheers,
Will

[Tothiro]

Let's don't forget the ever important and oft missing brain ship...

[cjefferys]

The earlier issued Mazingas came with 14 missiles and had a plastic red "V" on the chest, while the last issued version had 10 missiles and the "V" was a sticker. So if yours originally had 10 missiles, does he have the sticker "V"?

I've seen decent loose Mattel Mazingas go anywhere from $40-120 or so, depending on condition or completeness. Prices are really kind of unstable on these sometimes though. The more missiles still present the more valuable, the early ones with the plastic "V" are more desirable, and condition wise, one common problem is the plastic missile holders on the leg having broken clips. An early version Mazinga with all 14 missiles and unbroken missile clips would definitely command a premium and go for the high end of the above price range or even more, while a Mazinga with a lot of missing pieces and/or some broken missile clips would be at the low end. You might have something that could be somewhere in the middle of that range.

[generic]

Sounds like Great Mazinger (released as both Mazinga and Great Mazinga in the US). You have one of the US versions released here by Mattel as a part of their Shogun Warriors line. Those ones aren't as expensive as the original Japanese versions released by Popy, but are still cool in their own right (FYI, the Japanese Jumbo Machinder version of your toy had two fists, not a missile firing left hand, that's the main difference).

Oh yeah! Now that you've mentioned the name "Shogun Warriors" I totally remember that's what they were called. I didn't think that this would be worth a ton of money (mainly because if I have one, there MUST be a reason that they aren't worth a lot! ), but I just wanted to get an idea of this guy's value.

Mazinga seems to be the most common of the 24" Shogun Warriors. His value would depend on condition and completeness. If he still has a complete set of missiles, that's a big plus. But sorry, at any rate he wouldn't be as valuable as the Japanese Jumbo Machinder version, but give me some more info or a pic and I (or others) can give you a ballpark figure.

He's at my parent's house, so I can't get a picture right now. I know he's in good condition, but don't remember how many of the missiles he has. If I had to guess, I'd say maybe 6 out of 10 and both swords.