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  • MIB41
    Eloquent Member
    • Sep 25, 2005
    • 15633

    Opinion thread - How do you weigh the merits of retro figures to Megos?

    How's that for a broad landscape of opinions? I ask that question specifically because there seems to be a myriad of opinions on what constitutes quality today and what separates one person who loves a retro line to another who nearly hates it. And sometimes the line between those two is often very thin. So I thought this might be a good place to speak your peace on what it is you look for today versus what you had as a kid. And are those demands necessarily based on realistic measures or are we competing with childhood memories that don't always produce an equal playing field? My hope is we can develop a better understanding of how each person thinks on the subject, which can lead to better discussions when new product comes out. I'll start...

    I was between 8 and 9 years old when the first Action Jackson figure first hit the marketplace. So I had already spent a good piece of my childhood with no outlets to that kind of action figure. So by the time the WGSH line came on the scene the following year, it was life changing for me as a kid. It forever changed the concept of play time and provided me with a vehicle to exercise my imagination with characters that I never got to see before. And I immediately started customizing from day one never realizing or fully appreciating the value of what that would mean decades later. Who could have guessed? But that was pretty much the happy accident of what many kids did with these. Removable costumes was an enhancement any kid could take in any direction.

    I doubt Mego fully understood that angle since they were too involved in the day to day business of making popular licensed toys. So when Star Wars came along, that really was a game changer for me. I was fully expecting Mego to lead the pack in action figure goodness. And when that didn't happen (and I saw what we got instead), that really slammed the door on my playing days. So I watched Mego's slowly fade from store shelves and become truly a toy from yesterday at a very young age of it's inception. So when you think about it, the Mego action figure was really a short lived concept. And when Mego disappeared, pretty much everyone followed suit and jumped on the tiny figure bandwagon. So that was my exit from figures and my childhood.

    So fast forward to the present. Here I am, 50 years old, with a few less hairs on my head and few more pounds around my waist, but buried in more action figures then I could have imagined, let alone convinced my parents to buy back in the "glory years". For me this resurgence has been a thrilling ride. It's very much like re-experiencing that awakening from the early 70's, but with more of a nostalgic nod to that little kid in me who first saw a RC Batman sticking out of a solid box on a spinning rack. I never thought I would see figures like that as a kid, and I never thought I would see figures like that again, once they died out. So I have celebrated this revival with a perspective of what WAS versus what HASN'T been for decades since.

    And thus far, I haven't bought anything I don't already have an original of (either from childhood or my recollection habits of the past 20 years). It's the idea I can buy it new as opposed to my parents who bought it back then. Or it applies because the license for this scale was not developed back in the 70's and now that error has being rectified. So for me, I have a load of history on why these figures play to the tune they do today.

    And as far as quality goes, my general feeling is most of it is relevant to how Mego's or Mego-related figures were made. I'm not seeing much difference. I have a drawer full of old limbs and other body parts from Type 0, 1, and 2 bodies in the 70's. I loved displaying my figures, but some still broke. My AHI monsters pretty much all have big heads. I have probably 5 AJ figures in various states of disrepair and more for the superheroes. Some were put through the paces while others broke on their own. It's not an exact science and appearance will always be subjective. I've certainly read and respect those who have received broken pieces or figures not tied down in pricey packaging. Those are QA problems that need fixing, but I think most companies in this field have good replacement service on those issues. So I enjoy these for what they are, pick and choose like I did as a kid, and reject some if I think the price is gone too high or just don't like the general appearance of something. It's a general rule I apply to any product. But I'm also aware this will not last forever, so I'm doing my best to immerse myself in the love of this rare resurgence and enjoy it on it's own merits.

    Can it compete with my childhood memories? NOTHING does that. But they certainly rekindle old memories and feelings I had as a child, so I find value in them for those reasons.
    Last edited by MIB41; Oct 28, '14, 11:29 AM.
  • enyawd72
    Maker of Monsters!
    • Oct 1, 2009
    • 7904

    #2
    I think a lot of folks have impossibly high expectations of quality regarding these retro figures. Yes, manufacturing techniques have changed, but most of these retro figures are still being made exactly the way MEGO made them, and that includes all the flaws. MEGO suits were not always perfect. There were dozens of production variations, as we all know. Colors didn't match. Rubber bands broke. Knee and elbow pins snapped. Heads were too big. Heads turned grey. It was all part of being a MEGO. As long as new retro figures are made the same way, we can expect a lot of the same problems. The beauty of the MEGO is, it's a toy that can be easily repaired. When I look at FTC's Batman, I definitely see an improvement over what MEGO did. Simply color matching all the different blue materials...rubber head, vinyl gloves, cloth cape, and plastic boots couldn't have been easy. I'm pretty forgiving about things like big heads and such. Nobody sets out to intentionally make something less than perfect, but as we are all flawed, so will be what we create.

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    • boss
      Talkative Member
      • Jun 18, 2003
      • 7217

      #3
      I've purchased many CTVT/FTC figures over the years. I always end up regretting it and end up selling them later for a loss. And it's not because of the lack of quality (although that doesn't help). It's because they just don't hold any special meaning for me. I'm finding it harder and harder to care about licenses that didn't exist when I was a kid and reproductions of figures I already own. The good news is, their existence has driven down prices on original items that I can now afford.
      Fresh, not from concentrate.

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      • Wee67
        Museum Correspondent
        • Apr 2, 2002
        • 10603

        #4
        Re-Megos are pretty hit and miss for me. I'm generally drawn to characters from my childhood that Mego did not make- Six Million Dollar Man, Universal Monsters- and characters from Mego lines that Mego didn't make- Sulu, Khan. That said I have no strong draw to other lines like Twilight Zone but I have stocked up on The Venture Brothers.

        My original excitement has definitely worn off for my Mattel Retro figures. I think that's mainly because many of them were re-do's of existing Mego figures.

        As for the quality, I've been OK with most of the various brands. That said, I only really display them so there's not a real wear test. The only issue there was with the Mattel figures. Some times those bodies were difficult to work with.
        WANTED - Solid-Boxed WGSH's, C.8 or better.

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        • Werewolf
          Inhuman
          • Jul 14, 2003
          • 14974

          #5
          The biggest issue for me is I have zero interest in most of the retro licenses.

          Mego to me also means more than just 8 inch figures. Mego made a lot of 3 3/4 inch stuff. To me Mego isn't just WGSH. It's also Black Hole, STTMP and Micronauts. I'd love remakes/reissues of Black Hole, Micronauts or classic TV Trek done in STTMP style.
          You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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          • MIB41
            Eloquent Member
            • Sep 25, 2005
            • 15633

            #6
            Originally posted by enyawd72
            I think a lot of folks have impossibly high expectations of quality regarding these retro figures. Yes, manufacturing techniques have changed, but most of these retro figures are still being made exactly the way MEGO made them, and that includes all the flaws. MEGO suits were not always perfect. There were dozens of production variations, as we all know. Colors didn't match. Rubber bands broke. Knee and elbow pins snapped. Heads were too big. Heads turned grey. It was all part of being a MEGO. As long as new retro figures are made the same way, we can expect a lot of the same problems. The beauty of the MEGO is, it's a toy that can be easily repaired. When I look at FTC's Batman, I definitely see an improvement over what MEGO did. Simply color matching all the different blue materials...rubber head, vinyl gloves, cloth cape, and plastic boots couldn't have been easy. I'm pretty forgiving about things like big heads and such. Nobody sets out to intentionally make something less than perfect, but as we are all flawed, so will be what we create.
            I definitely think many new lines (like Batman '66), are enjoying a new level of quality that Mego never would have considered back in it's day. Mego was composed of young adults (from an entirely different era) making toys for kids in the 70's. You didn't have a collector market and you certainly didn't have people working at Mego thinking these were anything but disposable toys. Today's companies are composed of people who played with these figures, who have their own thoughts of how they want to advance that idea. So there's a melting pot if you will of people coming together to make these figures in a number of different capacities. In my mind everyone wins. If you want different bodies, many companies are making them in different ways. If you want more detail, there are companies making these figures with tons of detail. If you want the standard format or some slightly improved features, companies are doing that too. Mego only toyed around with the eight inch concept for about five years. They never really went terribly deep into DC or Marvel licenses before they went on to other product lines. But it was also a different marketplace back then. So for me the fact we have this great pool of alternatives is a wonderful side effect from generations of kids who grew up with these during their first run or got them second hand.

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