Bruce Wayne & Clark Kent --Please help identify!

[RG]

I wouldn't dismiss that head yet. the color looks more like an alter ego color than the RC head he had in the other lot, since in the other topic about alter egos it's been said sometimes a light copyright can show up on Alter Ego Wayne heads.

Recently won an auction.....Was waiting for figures to arrive.
I am seeking the members here opinion on these items.
I have taken photos of them. The links are below.

Here goes:

Bruce Wayne

Head: Has NPP Inc. 1972 on back. Makes me think the RC Batman in the other auction by same seller may have the BW head with no markings. Being so similar, a kid probably just played with it and mixed them up.
If anyone here won the other lot, please let me know.
Also anyone have an original BW head?.....LOL!

I tried to compare the items to the MM photos.

Pants/Jacket-- The jacket indeed has the Mego label in it. The pattern/color/buttons seem correct.

Shirt/Tie. The tie is light blue in color, not navy like a Dr. Mego repro.
Shirt seems right....... Please look at photos lmk what you think .

Shoes- Shoes do not have any Dr. Mego markings. Seem original.

Clark Kent:

Head: No markings on back of head. Original head.

Jacket/Pants: Jacket has Mego label in it. Seems right color.

Shirt/Tie: Tie is red color....Shirt seems right...please look at photos and lmk what you think.

Shoes: Shoes do not have any Dr. Mego markings. Seem original.

I took photos with and without a flash.

Thanks for all your help.

Click the links to the photos. If you click on them, the photos should enlarge.
I will also take more photos if requested. Please give me feedback on these two items. Again, many thanks!

BRUCE WAYNE

CLARK KENT

[clemso]

I don't know if the pattern on the back of the tie can be seen well enough...the pattern on the back of the tie is the same as the 1st version gloves for Batman. It's a checkered pattern. If your tie has that pattern on the backside of the tie then it looks like you have an original Bruce Wayne shirt and tie. I don't think Docs has that pattern on the back of the tie. Here's the pic of my Bruce Wayne:

http://megomuseum.com/mmgallery/files/3/1/BruceWayneTie_original.jpg

Hope that helps.

Roberto's photo highlights another characteristic of the Kent/Wayne tie and that is the way the vinyl has a tendency to in curl on itself, both ties on the auction lot are dead flat, also the points of the tie are very neatly cut, original ties tend to be uneven.

[soldierape]

I wouldn't dismiss that head yet. the color looks more like an alter ego color than the RC head he had in the other lot, since in the other topic about alter egos it's been said sometimes a light copyright can show up on Alter Ego Wayne heads.

http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!Bq0EB!QCGk~...pOiks!~~_3.JPG

Hi.
The Clark Kent head won on this auction has a faint copyright imprint..I had to hold it up to the light to notice it. Is the light copyright true of the Clark Kent? I will take a closer look at the head on the BW. I will take photos of both head and post them later. I will also take a look a the back of the BW and CK ties and post some photos.....Many thanks again.

[drmego]

My response

I don't own the original alter-egos so I can't compare them to mine.

Clem, agreed. That's why I took the time to put together the photo comparison on this thread.
I was nervous about that response from the Good Doc

[hobub]

I just love repros.

My enthusiasm has run out of gas.

[LonnieFisher]

Hi. I believe that these shirts are original! I emailed Dr. Mego himself and asked him to look at the photos and comment on the shirts.

Dr. Mego replied:
"The Bruce Wayne is definitely original, and I think the Clark Kent is too.
The red tie looks wider than mine and the red looks brighter."

Thank you to Dr. Mego and everyone for their assistance on these items.

so all original and good! according to doc mego.

[soldierape]

so all original and good! according to doc mego.

I want to thank Dr. Mego for looking at the shirts/ties. Didn't want to cause the good Doc any problems...thanks again Doc!

From what I think, he is saying it doesn't look like one of his repros (Since he doesn't own original AEs, he can't compare).

However, others say the shirt pattern looks similar to Dr. Mego's. ...Shirt very white etc...However tie pattern on back seems original on BW and CK. (Will take more photos and post.)
So not sure what the ultimate verdict is....I guess seems may be repro.

However, I know the shirts look white, but looking at the patterns, sometimes it looks like original (comparing MM photo to actual figure), sometimes it looks like Dr. Mego's shirt (from comparing both photos -shirt in questions and MM photo).


Options:

a. Shirts/Ties original
b. ShirtsTies- both repro
c. Shirts repro/ties original


Any other comments welcome......I will take close up of just shirts and ties/back of ties soon....Thanks again to all.

[hobub]

You have to compare them to known originals and not photos. I have compared both side by side. The pattern is indicative of the repros. The ties look like originals. If that's the case, the only conclusion I can come to on this is a fradulent representation. (not on your part but the guy who represented that they may be orginal or let you come to that conclusion with fed clues). That is why I love repros. I should have specified (exact, made in china) in that phrase.

[sauce]

This was a very tough auction. Not enough info nor pictures from the seller. I was certainly bidding, but couldn't go the distance with so little info. And now it looks like the reproduction China parts are likely in the mix. Ugh. Sorry.

[LonnieFisher]

I want to thank Dr. Mego for looking at the shirts/ties. Didn't want to cause the good Doc any problems...thanks again Doc!

From what I think, he is saying it doesn't look like one of his repros (Since he doesn't own original AEs, he can't compare).

However, others say the shirt pattern looks similar to Dr. Mego's. ...Shirt very white etc...However tie pattern on back seems original on BW and CK. (Will take more photos and post.)
So not sure what the ultimate verdict is....I guess seems may be repro.

However, I know the shirts look white, but looking at the patterns, sometimes it looks like original (comparing MM photo to actual figure), sometimes it looks like Dr. Mego's shirt (from comparing both photos -shirt in questions and MM photo).


Options:

a. Shirts/Ties original
b. ShirtsTies- both repro
c. Shirts repro/ties original


Any other comments welcome......I will take close up of just shirts and ties/back of ties soon....Thanks again to all.

Reproductions just hurt the hobby. I can't wait until all the star trek high dollar figures are all in debate.

[LonnieFisher]

Questions; with theories...
Were the ties hand cut or machine cut? Hand cut would make all the ties a little different.
Why do original suits have different color thread for the buttons? Different people sewing them on all using the thread they had in their individual station.
Why is there different looking copyright info on different heads? More than one mold was used for the heads.
Why does some material look like it goes vertical while others look horizontal? Different people cutting from different pieces of the fabric.

[sauce]

I hope that soldierape comes back on to talk about what happened with LivingDeadGeek so we can put this all to rest.

[Meule]

Yeah, I'd love to know why he destroyed the outfits

[MegoMark71]

same here guys

[SlipperyLilSuckers]

Ja, that is so not cool.