Picard Season 2 TEASERS

[Liu Bei]

Oh, good call on "All Good Things"! Hadn't considered that as a viable nexus point and it could work so well. Thank you! Added bonus, it makes possible a better branching version of the Admiral Riker future, since the crew was warned about drifting apart.

I read a comment elsewhere from someone hoping Picard season three would be TNG's "Undiscovered Country" moment. A proper sendoff which had been denied to them with Nemesis. For me, that sendoff was the card game in the last moments of "All Good Things".

Sorry angst lovers, I'm a sucker for a happy ending!

Agreed. For me, “All Good Things…” is the official end to Star Trek: The Next Generation. I like to imagine the crew still out there somewhere, doing further missions together onboard the Enterprise D. That’s how they’ll always remain in my memory.

[KnightDetective]

I pretty much feel exactly the same way as you in how I separate the Star Trek universes, including the TNG movies splitting off into their own universe. The only difference is I tend to think of “All Good Things…” as the split point, when Picard is phasing through time.

You basically have the original timeline (which sees Riker as an admiral and the Enterprise sporting a third nacelle), and the new timeline (where the Enterprise goes on to be destroyed and Kirk dies).

Oh, good call on "All Good Things"! Hadn't considered that as a viable nexus point and it could work so well. Thank you! Added bonus, it makes possible a better branching version of the Admiral Riker future, since the crew was warned about drifting apart.

I read a comment elsewhere from someone hoping Picard season three would be TNG's "Undiscovered Country" moment. A proper sendoff which had been denied to them with Nemesis. For me, that sendoff was the card game in the last moments of "All Good Things".

Sorry angst lovers, I'm a sucker for a happy ending!

[Liu Bei]

I think so. Just a personal "head canon" thing, but I've come to link the events of ST: First Contact to the creation of an alternate universe in which ST: Enterprise takes place, which leads to Discovery, Strange New Worlds and a somewhat altered (unseen) version of TNG that leads to the events of the Picard show. Retcon of a retcon to be sure, but there are very few things you have to ignore to make it work. Also has the benefit of leaving the classic TOS timeline separate and untainted. Sometimes I feel all of the TNG movies from Generations on could already be in that alternate universe. Would explain a lot of inconsistencies. Again, nothing official, just helps me to not holler at the screen because they changed something and "ruined my childhood"! Admittedly, I could be overthinking this!

Don't get me started on Classic vs. New Who...

I pretty much feel exactly the same way as you in how I separate the Star Trek universes, including the TNG movies splitting off into their own universe. The only difference is I tend to think of “All Good Things…” as the split point, when Picard is phasing through time.

You basically have the original timeline (which sees Riker as an admiral and the Enterprise sporting a third nacelle), and the new timeline (where the Enterprise goes on to be destroyed and Kirk dies).

For me, personally, I prefer the future we saw in “All Good Things…” to the one we saw in the subsequent TNG movies, none of which are especially good in my book.

All of Roddenberry/Berman Trek is “real Star Trek” to me, though, what ever timeline they fall on. Bad Reboot / JarJar Abrams Star Dreck isn’t.

[sprytel]

Paramount announced today that the entire TNG cast will reunite for S3 of Picard (which has already finished shooting)..

Exciting stuff. I hope they also include Wil Wheaton in some capacity. (I know they use him for the chat show stuff, but I mean as Wesley Crusher.)

[Sideshow Spock]

Paramount announced today that the entire TNG cast will reunite for S3 of Picard (which has already finished shooting)..

[KnightDetective]

i try not to over think these things and just enjoy them for what they are. Discovery is all about identity politics, but the story lines are entertaining enough for me to keep watching even though the politics annoys the hell out of me.

That's a healthier attitude, I'm sure, than what I described above. They're just tv shows, after all.

I bailed on Discovery long ago. Despite some good elements, it just didn't hold me. Too dark, unpleasant and ham-fistedly political for me. The writing, at times, put me in mind of an Afterschool Special or a big budget CW show. (Burnham seemed like the Trek equivalent of Rey from new Star Wars. Unbelievably lucky and gifted with industrial strength plot armor.) Has it changed at all? Maybe I'll revisit it someday with a different mindset. Hoping that Strange New Worlds holds more appeal for me. I do enjoy Lower Decks and I didn't expect to! That was a pleasant surprise!

[Nostalgiabuff]

So there's the TOS and TNG series universe, the J Abrahms NuTrek universe so is Discovery a third universe? I saw they cast a james t kirk for the second season of strange new worlds. I am way behind on watching the new trek shows. I don't have Paramount so I buy DVD seasons.

no, it's TOS universe. Trek has always had inconsistency. even in the original 3 seasons of the show. i try not to over think these things and just enjoy them for what they are. Discovery is all about identity politics, but the story lines are entertaining enough for me to keep watching even though the politics annoys the hell out of me. It'll be interesting to see how exactly they write Kirk in, maybe Strange New Worlds will act as a pilot for a new show with Kirk and crew on the original 5 year mission. sort of how Discovery did that for Pike and crew

[KnightDetective]

So there's the TOS and TNG series universe, the J Abrahms NuTrek universe so is Discovery a third universe?

I think so. Just a personal "head canon" thing, but I've come to link the events of ST: First Contact to the creation of an alternate universe in which ST: Enterprise takes place, which leads to Discovery, Strange New Worlds and a somewhat altered (unseen) version of TNG that leads to the events of the Picard show. Retcon of a retcon to be sure, but there are very few things you have to ignore to make it work. Also has the benefit of leaving the classic TOS timeline separate and untainted. Sometimes I feel all of the TNG movies from Generations on could already be in that alternate universe. Would explain a lot of inconsistencies. Again, nothing official, just helps me to not holler at the screen because they changed something and "ruined my childhood"! Admittedly, I could be overthinking this!

Don't get me started on Classic vs. New Who...

[powersthatbe]

So there's the TOS and TNG series universe, the J Abrahms NuTrek universe so is Discovery a third universe? I saw they cast a james t kirk for the second season of strange new worlds. I am way behind on watching the new trek shows. I don't have Paramount so I buy DVD seasons.

[Nostalgiabuff]

thoughts so far on S2? I am loving it. I think they explained Q aging very well. Could have done without Whoopie in it, though if that is the extent of her role it is okay. they even mention why she looks older too.

[Operation:Mego]

^He's going to be known as the Tom Holland or Mark Ruffalo of the Trek-Verse.

Chris

Other than specific show spoilers, he's answering pretty much anything (on his Cameo account). Like how Q will appear in 6 episodes and S2 and 3 will be shot back to back.

[Earth 2 Chris]

^He's going to be known as the Tom Holland or Mark Ruffalo of the Trek-Verse.

Chris

[Operation:Mego]

John De Lancie has revealed he’s worked with both Brett Spiner and Jonathan Frakes on the show.

[Hector]

Can’t wait! I loved season one of Picard. It’s a MILLION times better than Discovery, that’s for damn sure.

[Operation:Mego]

"[I’m] a little bit of a different Q this time. A little more age-appropriate, what can I say? It’s been a long time since I put on that hat as it were…It’s going to be a different Q as well as it should. It’s not quite octogenarian Q, but time has gone by. So, it will be a different Q. Other than I am still there to annoy Jean-Luc as much as I can. And I think I do it pretty well."
- John de Lancie