Black Hole Maximilian: Kate's father?

[Mikey]

I think Slim Pickens was actually inside Old BOB

[mightyquinn]

That's why I've always loved this movie. Need to watch the ending again, but as Max is floating away, doesn't show a human form through his helmet?

[Access]

The only problem with the psychoreactive element Is that there were 4 beings. Which reactions were we seeing? What were their importance? Again, it played little to any part of the story and would have been better if they would have just showed Maximilian wreckage with human eyes coming through the helmet to prove that he was also a cyborg. Exploring the psychic abilities of both ms McRae and Vincent would have been neat too.

I'd definitely be up for a remake!

[Mikey]

Problem with a remake is they would tell too much

Remakes are never subtle

That's why we could never have this type of talk about a remake of anykind

[Access]

Really? I felt that prometheus from last year was a great example of a movie that didn't tell too much and left the door wide open to interpretation.

I guess it also depends on who directs it, and the screenplay.

[Hedji]

Any remake of the Black Hole would over-design the robots and blanch the film of any charm.

[jwyblejr]

Plus they'll have to blow up everything.

[Mikey]

......and VINCENT would be voiced by Adam Sandler and Old BOB would be voiced by Will Farrell

Johnny Depp would be Dr Reinhardt

Brad Pitt would be Holland

.... I better stop, i'm making myself sick

[drquest]

It doesn't have to be a remake. But a prequel might be cool, discovery of the black hole, Cygnus being lost to Reinhardt etc...

[Access]

Oooh! A prequel could be very cool! Just called 'Cygnus' it tells the story of reinhardts madness, mcraes transformation, the mutiny and subsequent zombification of the crew.

Plus now that Disney is getting into the Star Wars business, maybe this could be a renaissance of sorts for cool scifi again!

[mightyquinn]

Oooh! A prequel could be very cool! Just called 'Cygnus' it tells the story of reinhardts madness, mcraes transformation, the mutiny and subsequent zombification of the crew.

Plus now that Disney is getting into the Star Wars business, maybe this could be a renaissance of sorts for cool scifi again!

That sounds awsome, good story! Check this footage out, I always assumed Kate's father was Max.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFv9ZRAqG1s

[johnmiic]

I think you're giving the screenwriters too much credit. They weren't that clever. Rienhardt asking for protection from Maximillian is, I think, the ravings of a deranged mind. A man who fears what he might not be able to completely control. Potentially Maximillian is so good at killing he might decide to stop taking orders and kill his master. As for the heaven and hell ending, I don't think it was much more than them saying the villain got his just desserts and the good guys got to live on. You're reading wayyyyy too much into it in my opinion.

[ctc]

>You're reading wayyyyy too much into it in my opinion.

One of the things that makes a movie like the Black Hole so engaging is that you CAN read all sorts of stuff into it. Mostly 'cos it's such a patchwork mishmash, writing-wise. But that's okay; it's part of the experience. It's also why I wouldn't be excited about a remake. A new one would probably be competently, yet typically written. No weird tangents, no weird scenes to interpret. (Although they might include the heaven/hell bit at the end, but VINcent would doubtless offer up "The" explanation.)

>As for the heaven and hell ending, I don't think it was much more than them saying the villain got his just desserts and the good guys got to live on.

....or it was a fragment from an earlier script. As a kid, I figured it was Kate's dream after being knocekd out. We saw what she HOPED would happen to the guy who killed her dad.

Don C.

[johnmiic]

>As for the heaven and hell ending, I don't think it was much more than them saying the villain got his just desserts and the good guys got to live on.

....or it was a fragment from an earlier script. As a kid, I figured it was Kate's dream after being knocekd out. We saw what she HOPED would happen to the guy who killed her dad.

Don C.

I could accept that as well rather than a literal interpretation.

[mego73]

I am just remembering when I saw the film how I was creeped out by the unmasking of the humanoid, Dr. Durrant's death, Reinhardt floating in space hell and finally... A pair of human eyes inside of Maximilian. Remember, I went in there knowing this is a Disney movie and expecting it to be benign and kiddish. And the thing is, in some ways, it is, but then they have all those dark elements in it. You have the Robots with the anime eyes and the robot that puree's Norman Bates' midsection. It did throw me off balance. The humanoid unmasking still creeps me out

Talking about how it was a patchwork made me think of that.