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Seems like Wild Hogs 2 would be a cheaper movie for Disney to make, and give them a greater return than a risky property like John Carter, even if they HAD promoted it better.
Disney used to be content to make profitable small movies. I think they are too desperate for a tentpole film series. Just latch onto that Marvel franchise and sit back, and let the money flow in.
Yea, its hard to understand what the next Harry Potter or Hunger Games will be. Spending that much to make a 100 year old property was a real gamble that didnt pay off. Good looking movie but is blown away by the new titans. You would think they would have researchers looking into what could be protential hits.
For the amount they loss on this movie I think they could have done an animated (non cgi) version and probably have been alot more successful. I miss the days when Disney wowed me with cartoons like The Lion King.
Although I'm in the minority (as far as the MM goes) in my utter disappointment with this film. I take no pleasure in it's failure or in the failure of others, not really sure why you do.
The head of Disney just stepped down. The main reason being cited is John Carter. There really is no excuse for sinking that much into this movie. Budget it more reasonably and it's a disappointment not a career ender.
Although I'm in the minority (as far as the MM goes) in my utter disappointment with this film. I take no pleasure in it's failure or in the failure of others, not really sure why you do.
I take huge pleasure ! 90% is garbage that so called Hollywood cranks out these days .I laugh at their failures on every level especially with CGI infested crap!
I haven't seen the movie yet - so I can't judge the quality.
Disney had an interesting director, who made big hits for them, with an interesting property and had some recent hit action movies (which they never did well with before) - so it was kinda like a perfect storm for them to take a shot at an Avatar sized hit, I think.
In a way - I like that Disney stuck their neck out like this - even though it didn't work out. It's been years since Disney has taken any real chances - maybe not since Walt Disney ran the company. So on one hand I have this kooky kind of nostalgia for the old days when studios took big chances - and at the same time it annoys me that this movie may have just killed this from happening again.
In any case, it's always easy to sit back and wonder why people risked so much AFTER something fails. (I've done it many times as well - so I know!)
>Disney had an interesting director, who made big hits for them, with an interesting property and had some recent hit action movies (which they never did well with before) - so it was kinda like a perfect storm for them to take a shot at an Avatar sized hit, I think.
It's one of those things that looks good on paper, and it's all perfectly safe. Big names, big budget, established story....
>I guess instead of new stuff, it's back to reboots and sequels
Yeah; that's one reason I get so cheesed at the audience. People seem to WANT remakes and sequels. Even this one.... I'd much rather see something new rather than a film version of something I could just read the book for.... but people get all excited for things they already know.
>on one hand I have this kooky kind of nostalgia for the old days when studios took big chances - and at the same time it annoys me that this movie may have just killed this from happening again.
Hmmmm.... I don't think Disney's really taken any chances since 1937. The big studios seldom do. If they do, it's usually the pet project of someone with enough pull (or cash) to push the project, or it's not actually a risk but it's played like one so's the audience think they're getting something new.
the head of Disney films division resigned over this collosal flop. it's a shame. i have not seen the movie but it looked good and i will pick it up on bluray when it comes out
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