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I just cannot seem to enjoy Collin Baker as the Doctor

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  • StrangeVisitor
    Career Member
    • May 13, 2007
    • 598

    #16
    Originally posted by The4thDoctor
    Sorry Colin, even though he put his heart and soul into the role, he was the worst.IMO....Stories were not very good,his clothes were UGLY, whole lotta flaws....I try to forget those years...hehe
    ...maybe in his "Real Time" costume you'll feel a bit better about him:

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    • Captain Big Trousers
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 14, 2012
      • 333

      #17
      ^See now? It starts with a little stick of celery and ends in a full-blown clown costume.
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      • The4thDoctor
        Travelling thru time
        • Nov 2, 2011
        • 647

        #18
        Originally posted by pmjlghrs
        I still like the Two Doctors, but more because I really like Patrick Troughton.
        Ah, the impish little clown
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        • bobws
          Permanent Member
          • Feb 13, 2008
          • 3479

          #19
          Originally posted by wolfie
          HIM???
          OOOOPPPPSSSS! i'll go back and fix that!

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          • Bruce Banner
            HULK SMASH!
            • Apr 3, 2010
            • 4335

            #20
            The bad writing and poor production values of the show during that era certainly didn't help matters.

            I know he has his fans, but JNT should have been removed as producer after one or two seasons in charge.
            PUNY HUMANS!

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            • UnderdogDJLSW
              To Fear is Not Logical...
              • Feb 17, 2008
              • 4895

              #21
              Well, at least I know it is not just me
              It's all good!

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              • Gorn Captain
                Invincible Ironing Man
                • Feb 28, 2008
                • 10549

                #22
                I liked the actor and the way he portrayed the role. Kind of a "regeneration gone slightly wrong". I much preferred him over the fifth Doctor, who was rather bland.
                Colin Baker was let down by poor writing, low budgets and no faith in the series on the part of the powers-that-be.
                Had he had decent material to work with, he would have been a great Doctor.
                I think they dressed him as a clown because they treated the show as a cheap circus, something you feel slightly embarrassed about, but you want to squeeze it for every last cent...
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                "When things are at their darkest, it's a brave man that can kick back and party."

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                • JediJaida
                  Talkative Member
                  • Jun 14, 2008
                  • 5675

                  #23
                  He was one of my favorites, actually.

                  The costume, I think, was a reflection of his personality; all over the place and never really settling itself.

                  His Doctor was acerbic, flawed, pushy, arrogant, loud, snarky, and yet had moments of reflection, compassion, and genuine affection.

                  He wasn't a clown, he was an agent of Chaos.

                  However, some of the stories were just crap; Anthony Ainley's Master certainly didn't do anything for me. Now THAT was a poor casting choice.

                  JNT should have left when Peter Davison did, his time was over.

                  The poor production values, scripts, and Michael Grade were what really sent Colin's tenure into an early grave.
                  JediJaida

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                  • Gorn Captain
                    Invincible Ironing Man
                    • Feb 28, 2008
                    • 10549

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JediJaida
                    He was one of my favorites, actually.

                    The poor production values, scripts, and Michael Grade were what really sent Colin's tenure into an early grave.
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                    • JediJaida
                      Talkative Member
                      • Jun 14, 2008
                      • 5675

                      #25
                      Good! Let's start fomenting a plot to take over the universe, the quicker the better.

                      It's going into the toidy from everything I've heard.
                      JediJaida

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                      • jds1911a1
                        Alan Scott is the best GL
                        • Aug 8, 2007
                        • 3556

                        #26
                        There is alot of statements in this tread about Colin's doctor but they blame should go to production specifically JNT

                        JNT chose the god awful technicolor vomit coat (he wanted the doctor to have no fashion sense, Colin wanted a dark grey suit and overcoat ala tennant)

                        JNT came up with the mean doctor not Colin.

                        The cancelled season would have been quite good based on the audio recreations from Big Finish

                        After the 18 month break JNT's conflct with upper amangement is why he pused for the "TRIAL" season arc since in his mind the show was on trial w BBC. On top of that the scripts were weak at best a sad finish for the late Bob Holmes after so many brilliant Who stories.

                        Colin shows just how good his doctor can be in Big finish. Amazing what good writing can do

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                        • palitoy
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                          • Jun 16, 2001
                          • 59797

                          #27
                          Totally agree, he's the face of his era but the blame has to go elsewhere.
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                          • JediJaida
                            Talkative Member
                            • Jun 14, 2008
                            • 5675

                            #28
                            The blue coat would have worked better than that patchwork monstrosity.

                            There's a fine line between having no taste and dressing like a color blind buffoon.

                            They crossed it.

                            JediJaida

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                            • Bruce Banner
                              HULK SMASH!
                              • Apr 3, 2010
                              • 4335

                              #29
                              Many of the things I hated about DW during that era were definitely the fault of JNT.

                              From the poor casting of Doctors and companions, to appalling costume choices, bad production design, to questionable changes to the DW mythos and terrible story decisions.

                              He should definitely have moved on after one season. He actually attempted to leave the show several times, but was always "persuaded to stay" by the BBC.

                              But far be it from me to speak wholly ill of the dead, so on the plus side, he was apparently very fan-friendly and granted a lot of interviews to fanzines and such.
                              Last edited by Bruce Banner; Feb 20, '12, 4:45 AM.
                              PUNY HUMANS!

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                              • Steeler80
                                Mayor of Strunk
                                • Jun 29, 2001
                                • 5688

                                #30
                                I agree with many of the above comments. Colin's era is my least watched of all Who, but I found very little to recommend it from what I have seen. But, I do think that, in the right hands, Colin's Baker would be much better liked today. The poor seasons were not his fault but his is the face out there.

                                And, yes, from what I have heard, JNT was a really good person. But a really good person with bad ideas for what Doctor Who should be. His influence would have been far more minimal if the powers that be would have let him move on when he wanted to.

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