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  • bluebird
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2, 2011
    • 398

    Rise of the Apes v POTA

    I really enjoyed the New Movie but how would you compare against the originals? Myself being a big fan who loves the TV Series and the Original movie puts ROTA up there with these. Million times better than the Mark Walhberg movie and a lotter better than the vintage sequels
  • Mikey
    Verbose Member
    • Aug 9, 2001
    • 47258

    #2
    This reminds me of reading people comparing the Star Trek classic TV series with the new movie.

    Classics will always be classics and nothng will ever beat them

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    • The Bat
      Batman Fanatic
      • Jul 14, 2002
      • 13412

      #3
      Originally posted by Mikey
      This reminds me of reading people comparing the Star Trek classic TV series with the new movie.

      Classics will always be classics and nothng will ever beat them
      No argument there Mikey!
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      • Hector
        el Hombre de Acero
        • May 19, 2003
        • 31852

        #4
        The first Planet of the Apes is one of the best films of all times...it's untouchable.

        The sequels are great too...although not exactly cinema masterpieces in my book....but they are really good nevertheless.

        Tim Burton's flick sucked...except for the make up...which was actually very good...but that's the only praise it gets.

        Rise of the Apes is a very good film...I really enjoyed it...perhaps over time...it will gain a higher status...but as of now...it's just a good movie...not remotely a classic. But this film proved that you can make motion-capture/CGI characters that you actually give a damn about...the key to me...was the emotions displayed by the apes...especially Caesar...he was far and away...the best actor in the movie...that says a lot about the seriousness of the filmmakers...I give then high kudos indeed.

        But is Rise of the Apes in the original POTA's league? No.

        I'd say it's best to say that Rise of the Apes is an excellent film...a really good stand-alone film...in a separate category from the originals.
        Last edited by Hector; Aug 22, '11, 6:44 PM.
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        • ctc
          Fear the monkeybat!
          • Aug 16, 2001
          • 11183

          #5
          Hmmmm....

          I think it's up to time to decide here. It's hard to wrap your head around what a big deal the first one was all them decades ago. It made an impact on folks; whereas the new one is very good, but doesn't bring anything new to the mix. It runs the risk of being swept out of the public consciousness.

          Don C

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          • Mikey
            Verbose Member
            • Aug 9, 2001
            • 47258

            #6
            I think it mostly matters if kids like it.

            If only our generation likes it it wont be a future classic.

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            • johnmiic
              Adrift
              • Sep 6, 2002
              • 8427

              #7
              Once you get to the twist ending in the original film, which is like a punch to the gut, you can't help but be hooked. The original film offered not only escapism but a serious comment on humanity, (like good sci-fi should). We always think we're #1-the top of the food chain but things can change quickly. Even without seeing the sequels we can understand, to some degree, Dr. Zaius's attitude towards humans. We had our chance and we blew it-badly. We won't get another.

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              • torgospizza
                Theocrat of Pan Tang
                • Aug 19, 2010
                • 2747

                #8
                Originally posted by Hector
                Rise of the Apes is a very good film...I really enjoyed it...perhaps over time...it will gain a higher status...but as of now...it's just a good movie...not remotely a classic.
                Not to us, but if the sequels are of the same caliber as this one, the younger generation might consider them classics when they're in their 40s. My niece really liked it, and I'm sure she'd want to see the others when they come out. Being that they started out the reboot with the apes revolting, young children might view it the way our generation remembers Willard, however.

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                • Hector
                  el Hombre de Acero
                  • May 19, 2003
                  • 31852

                  #9
                  That's what I meant...to the next generation.
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                  • babycyclops
                    Career Member
                    • Jul 9, 2010
                    • 823

                    #10
                    Disgarding purely emotional ties to the original series, I would rate the quality of all the ape films like this.

                    1 Original POTA
                    2 Beneath
                    3 Conquest
                    4 Rise
                    5 Escape
                    6 Battle
                    7 Burton's POTA (awesome make-up, though)

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                    • Bruce Banner
                      HULK SMASH!
                      • Apr 3, 2010
                      • 4335

                      #11
                      The original movies are classics for me, some of my favourite films of all time.

                      No remake, reimagining, reboot, call it what you will, will ever rival them.
                      PUNY HUMANS!

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                      • MIB41
                        Eloquent Member
                        • Sep 25, 2005
                        • 15633

                        #12
                        I think the achievement of Rise to overcome the Burton debacle and park itself as a contender within the original series speaks loudly to it's legitimacy as a well constructed film. I think this film gets its work done in allowing the viewer to watch the evolution almost from a visceral level. You can't help but have compassion for Caesar as you watch him removed from his home. The sting of rejection as he finds out he isn't going back; and the subsequent anger that builds from that emotional exile. Surprisingly, it is a very heavy film to watch. I so look forward to another chapter in this evolution. I believe the creators intent is to park it right next to the originals when it's all said and done.

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                        • Gorn Captain
                          Invincible Ironing Man
                          • Feb 28, 2008
                          • 10549

                          #13
                          Originally posted by babycyclops
                          Disgarding purely emotional ties to the original series, I would rate the quality of all the ape films like this.

                          1 Original POTA
                          2 Beneath
                          3 Conquest
                          4 Rise
                          5 Escape
                          6 Battle
                          7 Burton's POTA (awesome make-up, though)
                          Not a bad line-up, IMO. I can live with this. From classic POTA, Battle is the weak one, because they had such a low budget. What should have been "war" was just "two apes, two humans and a truck". Rather disappointing.
                          I really enjoyed Rise. It has heart, an intelligent story line, it's exciting, and it actually makes sense. The CG in the early scenes (with baby Caesar) was a little too cartoony, but the rest is pretty impressive. As for me, Rise has been accepted as "part of the saga"!
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