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  • Mikey
    Verbose Member
    • Aug 9, 2001
    • 47258

    Was the Jon Pertwee era the first of it's time ?

    I love the Jon Pertwee era of Doctor Who.

    Was just thinking about it ...

    During a lot of this era forget about Dr Who being a Time Lord ... Also forget he has a time machine.

    Take that away and the Jon Pertwee era of Dr Who was basically the X-files.

    This basic setup has been overused to death today ...

    My question, was the Pertwee era a first of it's kind and the granddaddy to everything from Kolchak to X-files to Torchwood and more ?
  • palitoy
    live. laugh. lisa needs braces
    • Jun 16, 2001
    • 59743

    #2
    No, Quatermass was the definite inspiration for the Pertwee years. It's not a secret and hoo boy, did Nigel Kneale hate Doctor Who.

    In Japan, they also had Ultra Q which was like a kaiju X Files, it eventually just turned into Ultraman.
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    • Mikey
      Verbose Member
      • Aug 9, 2001
      • 47258

      #3
      Originally posted by palitoy
      No, Quatermass was the definite inspiration for the Pertwee years. It's not a secret and hoo boy, did Nigel Kneale hate Doctor Who.

      In Japan, they also had Ultra Q which was like a kaiju X Files, it eventually just turned into Ultraman.
      Considering it's popularity i'm embarrassed to admit i've never seen Quartermass

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      • knight errant00
        8 Inch Action Figure
        • Nov 15, 2005
        • 1773

        #4
        Originally posted by Mikey01
        Considering it's popularity i'm embarrassed to admit i've never seen Quartermass
        Really? How about the movie Five Million Years to Earth? It was my first (and for decades, only) exposure to the Quatermass character -- the local UHF station here used to run it about twice a year through the 70s and 80s.

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        • Bo8a_Fett
          Pat Troughton in disguise
          • Nov 21, 2007
          • 3738

          #5
          Apart from the wonderful quatermass, there was also the Avengers, Danger Man (more spy orientated but with the odd..um..odd episode which eventually led to the Prisoner),Adam Adamant (Who creator Sydney Newman and his first producer Verity Lambert joined forces again to come up with a BBC version of The Avengers), Strange Report, Out of the Unknown (Anthology series of adapted science fiction works including Asimov, Wyndham, Pohl and Bradbury),Out of this World (earlier anthology series) were all transmitted in the 60's and have similarities to both Who and X-files.
          Doomwatch also appeared in 1970 which more directly dealt with scientific disasters and science fact gone wild was made by the BBC and used many Who writers for their 3 seasons. The Omega Factor in 1979 was a british x-files made by BBC that ran for 10 episodes ( I know this is post Pertwee...but for the sake of knowing right lol)
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          • jds1911a1
            Alan Scott is the best GL
            • Aug 8, 2007
            • 3556

            #6
            Originally posted by Mikey01
            Considering it's popularity i'm embarrassed to admit i've never seen Quartermass
            don't be embarrased Mike the early Quatermass serials are like early who LOST since you don't do reconstructions you wouldn't have seen them. Terrence Dicks openly admits influence by Quatermass but basically any time you have a organization defending earth it could be traced to Quatermass's influence eventually

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            • palitoy
              live. laugh. lisa needs braces
              • Jun 16, 2001
              • 59743

              #7
              I've only ever seen the films and the final TV Mini series, which was really good.
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              • Bo8a_Fett
                Pat Troughton in disguise
                • Nov 21, 2007
                • 3738

                #8
                Quatermass was released in as much entirety as it could be a few years back on dvd..it consisted of 2 episodes of The Quatermass Experiment (which was transmitted live) all of Quatermass 2 and a trimmed version of Quatermass and the Pit, there was also a version of the ITV Quatermass story from 1979 with Sir John Mills in 2 formats..Episodic and cut down movie version (the Quatermass Conclusion) in which the character dies. There is an audio cd of The Quatermass Memiors which reflects on the first 3 stories and fills the gap prior to the ITV series/movie.
                I love Quatermass and most of Nigel Kneal's stuff..check out also 'Beasts' (anthology show), 'Kinvig', 'The Stone Tape', 'Year of the Sex Olympics', 'The Abominable Snowman' (film with Peter Cushion) and the revamped live Quatermass Experiment in 2005, he also wrote the screenplay to 'First Men in the Moon', and the original screenplay to halloween 3 but asked for his name to be dropped after extensive rewrites because his story although loved by Carpenter was considered not gory enough by the studio.
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                • Mikey
                  Verbose Member
                  • Aug 9, 2001
                  • 47258

                  #9
                  Dumb question.

                  I've heard of the name Quartmain too on some kind of British production (I think that's how you spell it)

                  Does that have anything to do ith Quartermass ?

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                  • palitoy
                    live. laugh. lisa needs braces
                    • Jun 16, 2001
                    • 59743

                    #10
                    No, Alan Quatermain was a british pulp hero.
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                    • Mikey
                      Verbose Member
                      • Aug 9, 2001
                      • 47258

                      #11
                      Originally posted by palitoy
                      No, Alan Quartermain was a british pulp hero.
                      Oh, ok

                      I always thought they were connected in some way

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                      • Bo8a_Fett
                        Pat Troughton in disguise
                        • Nov 21, 2007
                        • 3738

                        #12
                        He surfaced recently in Alan Moore's 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen', and was played by Sean Connery in the awful film that had little to do with the most excellent comic. Quartermain is the hero in a series of books by H. Rider Haggard, there have been numerous films and tv adaptations and he is stated as a major influence for Indiana Jones.
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