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I know there was a three year span between each film in the original trilogy, but "storywise", how much time was supposed to have elapsed between each "chapter"? Was it meant to be as one long continuous story (with the start of each new film being the equivalent of turning a page to a new chapter), or were there supposed to be "years" between each one?
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George Lucas took a steaming dump all over the franchise.
THE ORIGINAL way it supposedly happened now makes no sense at all.
Think about these things....
Obi wan kenobi's brother was originally Uncle owen, it was listed for years that way in the official star wars guidebooks, approved as cannon by Lucas himself, HE RETRACTED THAT because the "Anikin You're my brother" line was so poorly recieved in Sith.
Luke and Leia have a conversation on Endor, where Leia tells luke about her REAL mother, she remembers her when she was very young. Lucas strikes again killing Padme during childbirth.
If luke was originally 16 in the beginning of a new hope, how the hell is Ben like 60? he delivers the newborn Luke at the end of sith, and he is merely 30!
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The chronology of the Star Wars fictional universe is subject to change as George Lucas has revised his films and deemed the revisions to be definitive. Lucasfilm manages the official continuity carefully. Their licensing arm, Lucas Licensing, maintains a Holocron database with four levels of official canon. Fan writers such as Nathan Butler augment this and in Butler's work, Star Wars Timeline Gold, he identifies 9 levels of officiality.[1]
The chronology is maintained according to narrated time rather than real-world time and publishing chronology. For this purpose, a calendar based upon the Battle of Yavin in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope is used. In this dating system, BBY stands for Before the Battle of Yavin,[2] and ABY stands for After the Battle of Yavin,[3] so 50 BBY comes before 5 ABY, as with BC/AD in the Gregorian calendar. The defeat of the Empire at the Battle of Endor (four years after Yavin) has been used as an alternate starting year, but has been superseded by the current system. When Bantam Spectra held the license for Star Wars novels, they described their books as after Endor, but Del Rey, the current license-holder, exclusively uses ABY.
A galactic year is based on the length of a year on Coruscant which is 368 standard days, each being the length of a day on Coruscant. The days are divided into 24 hours of 60 minutes each, while the year is composed of 10 months plus additional festivals and holidays.[citation needed]
Contents [hide]
1 Time measurement in the Star Wars galaxy
2 Film timeline
3 Timeline of the major Jedi-Sith wars
4 Timeline
4.1 Before the Battle of Yavin (BBY)
4.1.1 The Pre-Republic Era
4.1.2 The Old Republic era
4.1.3 Fall of the Republic/Rise of the Empire era
4.1.4 The Rebellion era
4.2 After the Battle of Yavin (ABY)
4.2.1 Rebellion era (continued)
4.2.2 The New Republic era
4.2.3 The New Jedi Order era
4.2.4 The Legacy era
5 Behind the scenes
5.1 Movies
5.2 Cartoons/TV Series/Other Film or Viewing Material
5.3 Novels
5.4 Video games
6 References
7 Sources
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In the official continuity, time is derived from the planet Coruscant:
1 Coruscant year = 10 months (350 days) + 3 festival weeks (15 days) + 3 holidays (3 days) = 368 days
1 Coruscant month = 7 weeks = 35 days
1 Coruscant week = 5 days
1 Coruscant day = 24 hours
1 Coruscant hour = 60 minutes[citation needed]
[edit] Film timeline
Continuity date Title Real-world release date
33 BBY Episode I: The Phantom Menace 1999-05-19
23 BBY Episode II: Attack of the Clones 2002-05-16
23 BBY Star Wars: The Clone Wars 2008-10-03
23-20 BBY Clone Wars (Vol. 1) 2003-11-07 - 2004-04-08
23-21 BBY The Clone Wars 2008-08-14+
23-20 BBY Clone Wars (Vol. 2) 2005-03-21 - 2005-03-25
20 BBY Episode III: Revenge of the Sith 2005-05-19
20-1 BBY Untitled live-action series 2010+
16 BBY Droids: The Pirates and the Prince 1985-09-07 - 1986-06-07
16 BBY Droids: Treasure of the Hidden Planet 1985-09-07 - 1986-06-07
0 BBY/ABY Episode IV: A New Hope 1977-05-25
2 ABY The Star Wars Holiday Special 1978-11-17
3 ABY Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back 1980-05-21
3-4 ABY Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure 1984-11-25
3-4 ABY Ewoks: The Battle for Endor 1985-11-24
4 ABY Episode VI: Return of the Jedi 1983-05-25Last edited by bizzaro megomauler; May 31, '10, 12:13 AM. -
Lucas intended for the films to progress without the feel of time passage but things did have an underlying time .
I`m not able to explain it as well as others could but i do know that Luke did spend roughly 3 months training with Yoda on Degobah .ATM-09-ST "Scopedog"Comment
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From what I understand Empire Strikes Back took place 3 years after A New Hope and Return of the Jedi took place 1 year after Empire Strikes Back"Thats the ticket laddie"
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I always thought Empire and Jedi ran together as one continuous story -- meaning there's no time inbetween them.Comment
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yes it was between 16-18 yearseorge Lucas is George Carlin from the"Sports" skit "My rules, I make 'em up"Comment
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Um... no. The correct timeline as established by Lucasfilm is as follows:
BBY= "Battle of Yavin" AKA Episode IV: A New Hope
ABY= "After Batle Of Yavin"
Episode I: The Phantom Menace: 32 years BBY
Episide II: Attack of The Clones: 22 years BBY (10 year lapse since Ep I)
Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith: 19 years BBY (3 year lapse since Ep II)
Episode IV: A New Hope (19 year lapse since Ep III)
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back: 3 years ABY (3 year lapse since Ep IV)
Episode VI: Return of the Jedi: 4 years ABY (1 year lapse since Ep V)
I think the idea that George Lucas "... took a steaming dump..." all over the franchise is a bit harsh.
Yes, much confusion has been caused over the years by George Lucas's alterations and contradictions of previously published statements:
Luke Skywalker is decribed in the original novelization for STAR WARS (A New Hope) as a "20 year old farmboy" from the planet Tatooine. According to the timeline set by the prequel films, Luke is now 19 at the time of the Battle of Yavin, and Ben Kenobi is (a weather-beaten) 57 years old (he was a 25 year old padawan at the time of Episode I).
In the fourth draft of Lucas' STAR WARS screenplay (A New Hope) , Princess Leia is described as "a girl of about 16..." making it impossible for her to be Luke's twin sister if he is 19 or 20.
In the novelization for Return of the Jedi, Ben Kenobi's ghost refers to Owen Lars as his "brother". Episodes II & III reveal this to not be the case. Also, Kenobi tells Luke the story of Anakin's fall to the dark side of the Force and transformation into Darth Vader. The tale he presents in the novelization bears only the slightest resemblance to what we saw actually transpire in Episode III.
Yes, Leia's memories of her mother (as described in Return of the Jedi) are something of a snafu. Her words are impossible to reconcile against Padme's death while giving birth to Leia as seen in Episode III. There are some attempts to explain this that have been offered up by the fan community. But they are thin and weak, in my view, and I won't bother to repeat them here.
Despite these things, the STAR WARS movie saga still did what it set out to do I think.Last edited by darklord1967; May 31, '10, 5:19 AM.I... am an action figure customizerComment
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I have always been a complete star wars nut. A friend and I actually were writing star wars treatments for novels after heir to the empire.a strict "BIBLE" of things you cannot go near, what was cannon, and suitable to be used in storylines. THIS WAS APPROVED BY LUCAS HIMSELF. in that bible it tells of the Owen and Ben brother thing being CANNON. He later said FLAT OUT in an interview, "Oh yeah, I decided to change that and a few other things for the new movies"
Sorry, when you have a beloved franchise where extreme nuts live and mold their lives around it, study the legends and lore as if it were someone comparing "The Illiad" and "The Oddesy" to greek mythology and Star Wars, and people spend BILLIONS of dollars to accompany a corresponding lifestyle, and you alter that history on a preference? sorry that makes you a complete DICK! I went from SW supergeek, to a casual fan now, The Trekkies win hands down because Roddenberry Isn't here to make spock a romulan.Comment
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Unless it's in the movies themselves, it doesn't "count" and can be contradicted by the subsequent movies. There were no references to Luke and Leai's ages in the film nor did the line about Owin being Obi Wan's brother make it onscreen either.
So ignore interviews, novels and screenplays and focusing on what made it up onto the screen, the complaints of ages and who is who's siblings are rather minor, but I can understand why the die-hards would be so upset since they have invested so much time and energy on the extra-textual material outside the six movies.Comment
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the book Shadows Of The Empire takes place between Empire and Return. I suggest reading the book. It explains everything that takes place between the two movies. A great book not written by the author credited on for writing it. When I saw Steve Perry to have him sign it, he told me who really wrote it. It is one of the best Star Wars books in my opinion.Comment
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Lucas was a genius with the first movie though he originally did not want to start the series off at number IV. He pitched the stories all around Hollywood and none of the major studios wanted to do any of the films he pitched thinking it was all too ambitious and too expensive needing new technology to film it that would have to be created for a film idea that was thought to be a major gamble.
It was Alan Ladd Jr at Fox films who liked the idea of the movie and convinced Fox president Dennis Stanfill to green light the project. BUT, they told Lucas they would give him the green light only if he made the 4th story, A New Hope. They felt that being such a risky gamble they wanted what they beleived was the best story and the one that had the most excitement and action in it. Lucas had always said from day one that he planned on nine stories with Episode IV being the first of the middle three films, with 1, II and III obviously before it and VII, VIII and IX coming after Jedi. So after agreeing to do the 4th story first Lucas surrounded himself with the best people in the industry to create a totally new film making technology and in 1977 Star Wars was launched and presented to a totally amazed movie audience. Happily seeing how well it was received he still planned on doing all of the other 8 movies. However, somewhere during or soon after of the making of the 6th film "Revenge Of The Jedi", which was changed before being released to theaters as "Return Of The Jedi" due to Paramount announcing their Star Trek film being released "The Revenge Of Khan" (which they changed after hearing about Fox's Revenge of the Jedi) Lucas changed his mind of making 9 films and has since changed his story that he even ever planned on making 9 films, and changed the reason why the Jedi film title was changed, even though his "new" reason now does make sense.
An interesting note: By the mid 1970s the Fox fanfare score was only being used sporadically at the beginning of any films. George Lucas enjoyed the original Alfred Newman musical score so much that he insisted that it be used for his Star Wars film in 1977 which features the CinemaScope version. Composer John Williams composed the Star Wars main theme in the same key as the Fox fanfare, (B♭ major), as an extension to the Newman score. In 1980 Williams conducted a new version of the fanfare for use with the release of "The Empire Strikes Back". John Williams recording of the Fox fanfare has been used in every Star Wars film ever since.
Anyway, getting back to George Lucas. So yeah, Lucas has been winging it as he goes along and changing his story about his films and changing the films themselves as he feels like it, many times against the fans outcries to leave well enough alone.Last edited by wyldpny; May 31, '10, 6:21 PM.Capt. Kirk: "Is there anyone on this ship, who even remotely, looks like Satan?"
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Capt. Kirk: "No, Mr. Spock, I didn't think you would be"Comment
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