What did you think of the DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTERPRISE in SFS

[The Bat]

I thought it had great impact...and gave Bones the opportunity to deliver one of the greatest lines in Star Trek, that to me defines the Characters.

Kirk:"My God Bones...what have I done"?

McCoy:"What you had to Jim, what you always do...turn death, into a fighting chance to live".

[Mikey]

The "stealing the Enterprise" scene in Star Trek 3 was one of the best scenes in the entire franchise, imo.

The combo of SFX, a fantastic score and "mild" action made for a perfect scene.

[The Bat]

The "stealing the Enterprise" scene in Star Trek 3 was one of the best scenes in the entire franchise, imo.

The combo of SFX, a fantastic score and "mild" action made for a perfect scene.

Agreed! I loved that scene!

[UnderdogDJLSW]

The "stealing the Enterprise" scene in Star Trek 3 was one of the best scenes in the entire franchise, imo.

The combo of SFX, a fantastic score and "mild" action made for a perfect scene.

Yep! Especially just before the doors open and nacelles just clear through when they do. I remember seeing it for the first time and the theatre crowd actually cheered

[MightyMegs]

Hated it. Still do.

[phil]

I saw it coming. After Spock's "death" the next obvious gimmick was destroying the Enterprise. I was 20 at the time and was rather cynical about it. Blow up the Enterprise in this movie and have a new one in the next. ILM complained about the main Enterprise model they had to use from the first movie when making The Wrath of Khan. Use the model one more time, blow it up and then build a new one that's easier to work with. Destroying the Enterprise in Search For Spock was planned from the begining.

[Mikey]

One thing I couldn't stand was the refit Enterprise in TMP was the best and latest technology and by SFS it was “Jim, the enterprise is 20 years old. We feel her day is over"

C'mon, Starfleet spent a zillion dollars refitting it and suddenly it's old and crappy after about 4 years ?

This is the same Starfleet who still uses Excelsiors in Next Generation times.

[MIB41]

Since the "Search for Spock" was all about sacrifice, it made alot of sense. Had Spock not sacrificed his life at the end of Kahn, then none of those characters, including the Enterprise, would have survived that blast in space. Kirk owed Spock and the manner in which the Enterprise had to be sacrificed fit the theme of the film perfectly. I found it sad, but beautiful in it's symbolism. Great installment in the series.

[Megotu]

One thing I couldn't stand was the refit Enterprise in TMP was the best and latest technology and by SFS it was “Jim, the enterprise is 20 years old. We feel her day is over"

C'mon, Starfleet spent a zillion dollars refitting it and suddenly it's old and crappy after about 4 years ?

This is the same Starfleet who still uses Excelsiors in Next Generation times.

At the time, all of the Admirals were seeing an entire fleet of ships with Transwarp drive engines. Anything that couldn't adapt was to be jettisoned. Same thing happened to the Air Force with jets. Despite the fact that the Army has been begging for 20 years for a prop plane with Warthog capabilities for troop support and tank busting.

[phil]

There are several years between ST:TMP and Wrath of Khan/Search for Spock but the comments of how old the ship is are still wrong. Also the Enterprise was only a training vessel and had just been heavily damaged in combat. Starflet wouldn't be using the Enterprise for a training vessel if it were still a top of the line ship.

[johnmiic]

Actually the plot had been leaked by a major tabliod and then they included a clip of it blowing up in the commerical so it wasn't un-expected. I figured tho if they could bring Spock back they must have a spare Enterprise lying around to give the crew. One controversey tho among my die-hard ST friends/fans was whether they would switch to the Excelsior. We had a a lot of arguments about that one.

[Mikey]

One controversey tho among my die-hard ST friends/fans was whether they would switch to the Excelsior. We had a a lot of arguments about that one.

After the movie was playing I knew that would never happen ...
Scotty badmouthing it proved there's no way this is going to be their new ship.

I think it would have been neat if they let them keep the bird of prey

End of Star Trek 4 .........
Riding in the travelpod going to their new ship .....
Passing Excelsior ......
Suddenly the bird of prey is there with "USS ENTERPRISE-A" hand scribbled in spraypaint over Bounty

[mego73]

I never felt the Enterprise was really lost because I know that there are many ships like it in the fleet and they would no doubt recommission one of those to be Enterprise 2.

Oddly enough I expected it to be Enterprise 2 on the hull and instead, of course they make it 1701-A instead.

Yes, the steeling the Enterprise scene was great. One of the times I saw it in the theater (I did see it a few times when it came out) the crowd cheered when the Excelsior broke down. They cheered when the Enterprise got the first shot at the Bird Of Prey. They cheered when Spock raised his eyebrow, etc.

That's why I can't wrap my head around people saying Trek 3 wasn't so good.

[ctc]

>My only problem is that they have destroyed too many Enterprises too quickly.

That's kind of a sticking point. Considering how often it ends up in the deadliest circumstances you'd almost expect them to lose MORE Enterprises.

Blowing up the ship was a nice touch. It takes the story out of the "how will they escape?" rrealm and into the "WILL they escape?" one a bit more.

Don C.

[Mikey]

Today, I can appreciate HOW the Enterprise "blew up" a lot more than when it first happened.

Back in the day it kind of bugged me because instead of Kirk blowing it up in a blaze of glory (like the Death Star) --- he trashed it instead.

After the episode the Corbomite Maneuver and then Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, I always imagined a starship destruction to be similiar to the Death Star's.

Today I can appreciate the technical reasons WHY Kirk didn't do it that way (which he could have) --- but back in the day I did feel a little cheated out of a big bang.