Gorn and Salt Vampire from JJ Abrams Trek

[palitoy]

From a cut scene

Topless Robot - The Gorn and the Salt Vampire Need a Better Agent

[Mikey]

I don't mind the Salt Vampire, but I don't like the Gorn.

He looks too much like a Predator rip-off

[Captain]

I dont really like either version...but its hard to get the full effect just looking at the mask on a stand. At least it wasnt the CGI Gorn from Enterprise!

I wish they had left the Rura Penthe scene in...It would have explained a lot, like where the Romulans were while waiting for Spock, and how Nero got his ear mutilated. Instead we are given the impression they just sat there for 25 years (or whatever it was).

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

The salt sucker is kinda neat; but the Gorn looks to much like the Predator for me.

Don C.

[Tothiro]

Yeah... I kind of dig the Salt Vampire. The head could have more hair... but whatevs. The Gorn sucks though. It's a lizard man. It is -ok- to make a lizard man just look like a freaking lizard man.

[trekman101]

To tell you the truth I don't like either of them the classic salt vampire was done well(it just needs to be tweaked)....the classic gorn needs the help of more modern realism but not a total redo like this one

[Meule]

I think they both suck. The Next Generation completely redesigned the Klingons, which actually was a good thing, but it's hard explaining such a make-over (and Worf never did if I recall). So how would you explain 2 creatures changing that much? Evolution? I don't think so

[jds1911a1]

I think they both suck. The Next Generation completely redesigned the Klingons, which actually was a good thing, but it's hard explaining such a make-over (and Worf never did if I recall). So how would you explain 2 creatures changing that much? Evolution? I don't think so

Actually next generation remade the klingon culture into a more samurai like one (before that they acted more like pirates) but ST The Motion picture is to blame for the redesign of the klingons.
In the Trials and Tribilations worf simply said "we do not discuss it with outsiders" prior to that several ST books explained about a disease that caused the head ridges (genetic enginerring like Khan's) and enterprise had the opposite explanation the ridges were a genetic trait repressed by an airborne genetic mutiation that brought human characteristics to them for several generations until a "cure" was found

[Meule]

Actually next generation remade the klingon culture into a more samurai like one (before that they acted more like pirates) but ST The Motion picture is to blame for the redesign of the klingons.
In the Trials and Tribilations worf simply said "we do not discuss it with outsiders" prior to that several ST books explained about a disease that caused the head ridges (genetic enginerring like Khan's) and enterprise had the opposite explanation the ridges were a genetic trait repressed by an airborne genetic mutiation that brought human characteristics to them for several generations until a "cure" was found

So, it's a disease, huh? Ok, I'll buy that.

Does that mean Gorn and Salt Vampire were supposedly also affected by a disease? That's stretching it

[HardyGirl]

I think both of them look dumb.

[Nostalgiabuff]

Star Trek has a history of redesigning it's aliens. The Klingons being the most blatant. But they also did it with the Borg, the Ferengi, even the Romulans with a more prominent brow. Besides, since we only ever saw one gorn and one Salt Vampire, who knows if they would all look the same