>have you never seen star trek or star wars unrealistic and illogical rule the universe in those shows betweeen contradictory stories and histories,
Yeah; but that's a time thing. (Since both have been around more than 30 years.) I'm referring to stuff like Daleks being giant salt shakers, or building a TARDIS locator out of two forks and a potato. Or for Star Trek; space Nazis, or ancient Greek gods.... Stuff that's not "realistic" and doesn't conform to any known science. American shows seem to work hard to EXCLUDE that sort of thing. So you end up with a lot of the same old same old, 'cos that's the "right" way to do spaceships, or aliens, or whatever. Dt Who; especially the old one didn't care about any of that. Mostly 'cos they had no budget and had to make monsters out of whatever they had on hand. Then they'd come up with some sort of pseudoscientific explanation for them. (Or in Who's case.... just roll with it.) And that contirbuted a great deal to the feel and uniqueness of the show. (BOTH of 'em, actually.) THAT'S what I don't think would fly nowadays. Luckily the new Dr Who didn't change the basic concepts too much. (Except the Macra being retrograde animals now....) The Daleks look armoured, but they're still salt shakers.
It's also why I don't usually dig remakes; the time and circumstances of a show's creation have a huge effect on the final product, and I don't think too may creative types realize that. Hence all the remakes that are the current standard with an old name slapped on. The people doing the new versions don't realize that THEY'RE a part of the current era, and that their conception of "right" is heavily influenced by that. (Kinda what I was getting at on another post about Miller's Spirit movie....)
Don C.
Yeah; but that's a time thing. (Since both have been around more than 30 years.) I'm referring to stuff like Daleks being giant salt shakers, or building a TARDIS locator out of two forks and a potato. Or for Star Trek; space Nazis, or ancient Greek gods.... Stuff that's not "realistic" and doesn't conform to any known science. American shows seem to work hard to EXCLUDE that sort of thing. So you end up with a lot of the same old same old, 'cos that's the "right" way to do spaceships, or aliens, or whatever. Dt Who; especially the old one didn't care about any of that. Mostly 'cos they had no budget and had to make monsters out of whatever they had on hand. Then they'd come up with some sort of pseudoscientific explanation for them. (Or in Who's case.... just roll with it.) And that contirbuted a great deal to the feel and uniqueness of the show. (BOTH of 'em, actually.) THAT'S what I don't think would fly nowadays. Luckily the new Dr Who didn't change the basic concepts too much. (Except the Macra being retrograde animals now....) The Daleks look armoured, but they're still salt shakers.
It's also why I don't usually dig remakes; the time and circumstances of a show's creation have a huge effect on the final product, and I don't think too may creative types realize that. Hence all the remakes that are the current standard with an old name slapped on. The people doing the new versions don't realize that THEY'RE a part of the current era, and that their conception of "right" is heavily influenced by that. (Kinda what I was getting at on another post about Miller's Spirit movie....)
Don C.
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