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  • Captain
    Fighting the good fight!
    • Jun 17, 2001
    • 6031

    Trek movie musings.

    Warning....ravings of a madman. Spoiler info may be involved!!!!!


    With the massive amount of info we now have on the films plot (and including the Trek:Countdown comic), I am going to stick my neck out and make some educated guesses.

    First, Nero isnt after Kirk as reported. I used to think he was after Spock, and the evidence definitely points towards a grudge against Spock, but I think hes actually after the Vulcan people as a whole. Allow me to extrapolate:

    The galactic cataclysm in Countdown----Looks to me like this happens. Spock goes back to try and salvage the future...Nero goes back in time to revenge the death of his wife, his race, and the galaxy.

    It has been reported that the new film is in continuity with Trek canon. How can this be, when we've seen so clearly that it is not? Simple, the writers have destroyed Trek continuity by destroying the universe! The black hole created (see Countdown) sucked in the galaxy as a whole and regenerates it somehow. Maybe, it just spits it out somewhere else? I'm not sure exactly, but whatever happens, it obviously a gimmick that essentially allows the writers of the new movie (and whatever follows) to set the meter back to zero.

    Spock and Nero must try to stop the cataclysm, but their attempts fail. Somehow the resulting black hole hurls them back,intact, to the 2260's. As mentioned above...it's not their 2260's, but it will do for what Nero plans.

    Now, in Countdown, its mentioned a rare element (found on Vulcan) is needed to stop this cataclysm. I'm betting the extraction of this material is difficult, and may be dangerous to the stability of the Vulcan planet itself. I have the feeling they get some (perhaps too late?) of this element, but it's not enough to stop the black hole from forming. Nemo, understandably enraged, decides to rip Vulcan apart if he has to, and get all of this material he can get his hands on. The plan being to travel back to the future (heh!) , do the voodoo he needs to do to the collapsing star, and save his family.

    Even though this is'nt his timeline anymore, the pointy eared boy scout acts to save this Vulcan by looking up some "old friends" and help them stop Nero. These folks arent exactly as we ..or he...remembers them, but it's all he has to work with.

    Perhaps by the end of the film, Spock manages to save the day, and not only saves this time line, but his own. In short this new Trek will save our old Trek, figuratively and literally?! Thus shoehorning this new version into canon, while leaving us "old folks" with our Trek intact!

    whatcha' think?
    "Crayons taste like purple!"
  • Mikey
    Verbose Member
    • Aug 9, 2001
    • 47258

    #2
    Not bad.

    It does explain how they might rewrite history
    Last edited by Mikey; Feb 27, '09, 3:13 PM.

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    • Hector
      el Hombre de Acero
      • May 19, 2003
      • 31852

      #3
      Wow...that's some pretty trippy stuff...I dig it.

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      • UnderdogDJLSW
        To Fear is Not Logical...
        • Feb 17, 2008
        • 4895

        #4
        I was thinking similar things, but then most of the audience aren't going to be reading the countdown comic before going into the movie, so what will be the focus "old" star trek or new? I think the point of view will be more on the new Kirk than the time travel aspect unfortunately.
        It's all good!

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        • Vortigern99
          Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
          • Jul 2, 2006
          • 1539

          #5
          You lost me after "First..."!

          Kidding. But the story seems a bit convoluted. Hopefully it will be clearer in the film, if this is indeed the plot of the new movie.

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          • Captain
            Fighting the good fight!
            • Jun 17, 2001
            • 6031

            #6
            Yah, I rambled a bit, sorry...I do that.
            As for the plot, it's my somewhat educated guess as to whats going to happen based on whats been leaked so far, the Countdown comic, and interviews with the writers. For all I know, the movie is really about the Enterprise crews search for a golden ticket so they can visit Willy Wonkas chocolate factory.
            "Crayons taste like purple!"

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            • trekman101
              Persistent Member
              • Feb 6, 2009
              • 1432

              #7
              the writers have hinted that the film takes place in an alternate reality with the assumption that all realities have common threads running through them.
              Fixing problems on a major thread in one reality will also correct the same thread in all the other realities.
              "Thats the ticket laddie"

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              • bgrimm77
                NORTHEAST REPRESENTATIVE
                • Jan 4, 2009
                • 768

                #8
                my head hurts !
                WHEREVER YOU ARE IS WHERE YOU ARE AT

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                • The Bat
                  Batman Fanatic
                  • Jul 14, 2002
                  • 13412

                  #9
                  Great Theory...I like it!!
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                  • Earth 2 Chris
                    Verbose Member
                    • Mar 7, 2004
                    • 32972

                    #10
                    Sounds pretty cool. I think they'll play it smart and give us a new timeline, but keep the old one, after they threaten to destroy it.

                    Nice theorizin' Cap!

                    Chris
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