Star Trek new photo old pose

[JPkempo]

[HardyGirl]

Honestly...can anyone look at this photo and see Kirk and Spock? Ok, Spock, maybe, but Kirk...no way!

[ctc]

>Honestly...can anyone look at this photo and see Kirk and Spock?

I CAN.... but for some reason it looks like an ad for Star Trek costumes from a newspaper flyer.

Don C.

[Mikey]

Honestly...can anyone look at this photo and see Kirk and Spock? Ok, Spock, maybe, but Kirk...no way!

When I look at this photo, it reminds me of me and my old school buds.
Back in the 70's we had a movie camera and used to make and film our own Star Trek adventures.
We also used to do "promo pics" like the one above -- for fun.

BTW, I was Captain Kirk ---
Why you ask ?
Because I owned the movie camera

Still,
Going back to the pic ......
Like I said, the pic makes me think cheapo amateurs.

[Earth 2 Chris]

If they were going to mimic that famous shot, they should have mimicked the lighting and the actual angle from the original, which is timelessly cool. As it stands, no matter how good or bad this movie is, looks like the new Kirk and Spock stopped by the Wal-Mart photo studio and had their portraits made for Christmas cards.

And Pine in all black is totally making him look even more non-Kirk than he does.

Chris

[Mikey]

I dunno why most of you guys think that fake Spock guy looks so great.

To me, he doesn't look anything like Spock

He looks like a generic vulcan you'd see in the background of any given Trek series.

Actually, he looks more like Robin Curtis then Nimoy

[huedell]

One things for sure--Nimoy and Shat look OLDER than the new guys in their pic

That adds a lot to any disparity in the simillarity of the two pics

[Earth 2 Chris]

One things for sure--Nimoy and Shat look OLDER than the new guys in their pic

That adds a lot to any disparity in the simillarity of the two pics

Shat and Nimoy weren't airbrushed/photoshopped to death to smooth out their skin and cover their pores, moles, acne scars, etc. So the look a lot more rugged and believable as experienced explorers. The still photos from this movie so far are horrible looking. The PR people are not helping sell this film to anyone.

Chris

[huedell]

Shat and Nimoy weren't airbrushed/photoshopped to death to smooth out their skin and cover their pores, moles, acne scars, etc. So the look a lot more rugged and believable as experienced explorers. The still photos from this movie so far are horrible looking. The PR people are not helping sell this film to anyone.

I don't think that the 60s Trek promo guys were looking to render
"believable experienced explorers"----they were just working within
what was common practice at the time.

Hey now....what you said MAY be true but the point I was actually
trying to make was far more simple.

Nimoy and Shat look older----of COURSE they are going to look different.

[Mikey]

I still remember back in like '90-ish AFTER The Final Frontier, when the idea of a backstory of Kirk first meeting Spock (with all new young actors) was pitched to Gene.
This was going to be Star Trek 6.

Gene shot it down in 2 seconds.
He said we're not going to have any of that.

I think it's quite appropriate it's finally being done, now that Gene is dead and can't veto it.
Appropriate because after Gene died, everything Trek failed.

There's nothing new here.

[huedell]

What's the alternative Mike?

Let Trek go "gently into that good night"?

Something as popular as Trek...economically, that just ain't gonna happen.

Anyway, you'll get your wish of (at least "classic") Trek being put to rest if
this fails as you predict it will.

[Mikey]

What's the alternative Mike?

There is none, just watch the old series and enjoy it like everyone else has done for the past 40-ish years.
You'll find, seeing an old rerun 2000 times is still better then anything new they can make.

Let Trek go "gently into that good night"?

Yes, just let it die.
With no Gene and no cast members (they're all too old or dead) ... there is nothing that can be done.

People LOVE Shakespeare.
They love reading the same stories over and over and over again.
They don't need A Tale of Two Cities : The Next Generation and so forth.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I remember two ideas being bandied about for future Trek films in the late 80s/early 90s. One was the "young Kirk and Spock meet" idea Mike mentions. It would have had Shatner and Nimoy and flashbacks with younger actors. I believe that was Harve Bennet's idea. The other was Rodenberry's persistent "Enterprise goes back to 1963 and stops Kennedy assasination" idea. He apparently brought it up every time a new movie was on the tabel. Rodenberry shot down Bennet's idea, and Bennet shot down Roddenberry's. Honestly, between the two, Bennet's was better. Kirk already proved he wouldn't muck with time for personal gain, by letting Edith Keeler die. Why would he save Kennedy and alter history?

This may seem blasphemous to some, but I don't put a lot of stock in Rodenberry as the Great Bird of the Galaxy. I'll give him credit for the initial idea, and pushing it on through the pilots and the first season, but much of what became classic Star Trek came from many hands, including guys like Gene Coon and some of the best SF writers in the world.

Roddenberry on his own gave us the bland first few seasons of ST:TNG. Roddenberry kind of reminds me of Bob Kane, "creator" of Batman. He was always there with his name out front and mugging for the camera, but many other hands did most of the heavy lifting.

Chris

[Mikey]

If they really wanted to do something as a nice final blowout for the franchise, here's what I would suggest .......

It's 2008, so any idea is possible today....

Go with Gene's first Motion Picture idea.
The Jesus as a crazy robot one.
Get the Next Gen cast to star in it, and include some DS-9's and Voyager cameos.
Forget about the classic series and Enterprise.
Or, get some of them to play as other characters in the Next Gen universe.

Run with that and make a movie that Gene WANTED to do.

Either go out punching with what they have, or crawl away.

Leave the classic series alone.

That's my theory.

[toys2cool]

The Spock looks awesome