New movie Kirk and Spock pic.

[The Bat]

Well said fallensaviour!! I LOVE ST:TOS more than is probably healthy...but I'm still willing to give this new Movie a chance! There's no sense in making up Your Mind about this movie...until You've actually seen it! And I don't want to see any Next Gen, or Enterprise....I want CLASSIC Trek with Kirk & Spock DAMMIT!

[fallensaviour]

I just don't get why you seem so happy that some classic Trek fans are bothered by this. They have a right to like the classic series and not watch the new movie if they so choose just as you have the right to like the update. I just don't see the need for what appears to be gloating over them being upset by it.

And if I am interpreting it wrong I apologize. But I do feel you are being overly harsh to the classic fans. No one is protesting, they're just not going to go see it.

Yeah...I'm a classic TOS fan I hated TNG,DS-9,Voyager and yet I liked enterprise???
This movie has me tossing and turning at night with anticipation.
I will go see it!!!
Is it classic No,yes,no wait...Yes,No wait..!?!?!?
Who cares it looks good it has Spock!!!
Kirk is dead!!Yes that's right he is dead;I said it and I meant it,to bring him back again would be to cheapen his death even more!
He was brought back already once.
Shatner is Trek and I would love to see him in this film but....meh I'm going with or with out him.
This film has great potential and I would love to see it work.
Oh and if it fails miserably that's okay to cause it's not classic trek and nothing could possibly be worse than generations...Period(it was a crapfest)

By the way if shatner could fit his old butt into his uniform for a dang hdtv commercial,Don'T tell me he cant do a cameo in the film.

He was never asked I highly doubt it!!!
He just didn't want to be a bit part is all.Rightly so cause he is the all powerful and glorious shatner.(now with one less trek film to his credit...LOL)
By the way Spock was the only original character from the start so it is only fitting he also be the last.

Praise be to Nimoy!!!
All hail the Nimoy!!!

But hey who knows,it could just be all hype that he is not in the film and he is in on it.
Maybe it will be a surprise appearance????

[Werewolf]

This is not a charity organization...this is entertainment to make money...nothing more, nothing less.

And no one said otherwise.

You were equating to the "haters" that the movie doing well proves them wrong about the update being good or not. I answered that by proving that even if something is successful it doesn't make it a good movie or a good album.

Plus I just don't get why you seem so happy that some classic Trek fans are bothered by this. They have a right to like the classic series and not watch the new movie if they so choose just as you have the right to like the update. I just don't see the need for what appears to be gloating over them being upset by it.

And if I am interpreting it wrong I appologize. But I do feel you are being overly harsh to the classic fans. No one is protesting, they're just not going to go see it.

[Nostalgiabuff]

Star Trek: TMP always gets a bad rap. It's actually a pretty good movie, especially the latest directors cut on DVD. That being said, as I have already posted, people are tired of new Star Trek characters. In order to bring this franchise back to life they had to recast the original characters.
While I don't necessarily agree with changing continuity for the new movie, I will view it with an open mind and accept it for what it is, a Star Trek movie. I am really looking forward to it and I think hype will start to build over the next seven months. It has always worked for James Bond to bring in new actors and change the soty lines with the times. I have faith in JJ Abrams that he can pull this off while still staying true to the original spirit of Star Trek.

[Hector]

It's all make believe either way...so really...

[Hector]

So? Britney Spears sells millions of albums. Doesn't make them good.

Besides, my problem with it is the snubbing of the glorious Shatner. Praise be Shatner.

You know why Trek still exists today?

Money, honey.

This is not a charity organization...this is entertainment to make money...nothing more, nothing less.

That's your so right there.

[huedell]

So? Britney Spears sells millions of albums. Doesn't make them good.

The Britney/New Trek comparison is kinda like apples and oranges.
(If you were to predict that New Trek will have big box office, I mean)

There are many definitions of the word "good"

---not to sound like a "sheep" "chump" but I bet if you listed the
top 3 grossing Trek movies--they'd probably be my favorite 3 Trek movies
or close to it.

The "not so good" Trek movies don't seem to correlate with bigger box office.

[Werewolf]

You haters will be eating crow when this new Trek flick makes well over $200 million...eclipsing the highest grossing Trek...the Voyage Home's paltry $120 domestic box office take.

So? Britney Spears sells millions of albums. Doesn't make them good.

Besides, my problem with it is the snubbing of the glorious Shatner. Praise be Shatner.

[huedell]

You haters will be eating crow when this new Trek flick makes well over $200 million...eclipsing the highest grossing Trek...the Voyage Home's paltry $120 domestic box office take.

So much for the old classic Trek crew...couldn't even go beyond $120 million.

It would be nice if the "new Trek" movie direction generated some
heavy, heavy box office.

STAR WARS has trounced STAR TREK at the box office from the beginning.
(The "Motion Picture" Trek was a bad foot to start on)

All good natured Trek "taunts" aside---I couldn't help but think
that the quotes from Abrams regarding STAR WARS' appeal
and a love for "movies being movies first" (paraphrasing) being a solid
philosophical direction for the new Trek movie series.

Now whether they'll be able to make those big words work sucessfully
or not---that remains to be seen.

[Hector]

You haters will be eating crow when this new Trek flick makes well over $200 million...eclipsing the highest grossing Trek...the Voyage Home's paltry $120 domestic box office take.

So much for the old classic Trek crew...couldn't even go beyond $120 million.

[jds1911a1]

I think it's gunna stink and be forgotten (thank god) 1 week after it's released.

I agree
these pictures leave me UNIMPRESSED. what the franchise needs is a new hook not a rehashed one. A better thought might have been a different crew/ship in the timeframe of of the existing frnachise - this is what made DS9 work it could interact with the events and characters we knew. woudl it be tougher to have it occur alongside the 5 year mission timeline of TOS sure but if they could do it in Trials and tribilations in ds9 12 years ago on a tv budget there is no reason they couldn't use digital editing to do it today with other classic trek moments (even if they didn't want to pay shat and nimoy royaties there are other actors to use).
Voyager (and ENTERPRISE) didn't work because they pushed away from the rest of the coninuty so it got dull fast with only 1 ship

[Mikey]

If you have those cardboard cutouts and blinking plastic buttons from the original series, modern audiences are going to be laughing their butts off

I don't know one single classic Buster Crabbe Flash Gordon fan who doesn't love the Sam Jones movie.
That movie was done so perfectly ....
It had everything that covered younger viewers who had no idea who Flash was, but also grabbed the classic fans.

Look what happened last year when they tried to change too much and go serious with Flash.
They got a load of crap that NOBODY liked.
It seems like filmakers today just arent as talented as they once were.
It's like everybody got stupid (filmakers and audiences) within the last 20 years.

[ctc]

>It seems, to me anyway, far too convient that the regular characters from the original series first met when they were younger.

I was discussing this with a friend recently; but pertaining to Star Wars. The principle is the same though; since the 90's sci-fi universes have been VERY small. Everything interesting happens to a small number of people who keep meeting each other. (For being the arse-end of the galaxy, Tatooine sees a LOT of traffic these days....)

I think the principle applies here too. And it really makes it seem like nobody did anything interesting until the show happened. (Anyone seen "Rozencrants and Guildinsteen are Dead?") OR until their fifteen novel series.

Ultimately it's about more face time for the big sellers.

>If you have those cardboard cutouts and blinking plastic buttons from the original series, modern audiences are going to be laughing their butts off

....which is sad, 'cos modern sci-fi accoutriments are equally silly; but in a more overwrought CGI kind of way. (Try figuring out what all them lines and numbers are on any sci-fi targeting screen.)

Don C.

[huedell]

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[Hector]

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