Dr Who and the Daleks

[Meule]

I saw it for the first time last night on Sci Fi and man... what a stinker Does anyone actually like that atrocity?
I'm no Dr Who expert (far from ir actually), but isn't he an alien timelord? I was disappointed to see Peter Cushing play a human Dr Who - a grandfather even - who simply invented the Tardis. And I usually love Cushing movies.
And don't get me started about the Daleks... don't think I've ever seen them this talkative (is that a word?).
The movie is also a blatant rip-off of The Time Machine (from 5 years earlier), where Rod Taylor helps the Eloi defeat the Morlocks.

Comments anyone?

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

I think the movie is okay; not as good as the actual show, but not bad.

>I was disappointed to see Peter Cushing play a human Dr Who

I'm not sure if the Timelords had been invented when the movie came out. THe mention fairly early on in the series that the Doctor is an alien. I think. (It was "The Time Meddler" I believe, but it was sort of mentioned in passing.) The Timelords weren't created until "The War Games," which was 1969? I have no idea when the movie came out.

>The movie is also a blatant rip-off of The Time Machine (from 5 years earlier),

Well.... so were a lot of things. "We have to help the good but naieve folks defeat the evil, militaristic ones" is a pretty standard movie plot.

Don C.

[AUSSIE-Rebooted-AMM]

Haven't seen it since I was a kid, when I saw it a few times. It was my first introduction to Doctor Who. I guess it is just a product of its time. Perhaps it was the FIRST re-imagining of a story line Thomas. . . .or just another example of a common theme in Sci-Fi development.

[jds1911a1]

I have had it for years and for what it is a "big budget" remake of the tv episode it's not bad. And for many years it was the only way for yanks to see the story at all.

[Mikey]

I like it.

When I watch it, I don't watch it like i'm watching a "real" Doctor Who.

Actually, a lot of what is in that movie could be explained away to fit into the "real" Who universe.

1. There's no way an English man would have the last name "Who"... Is Dr Who just a fake name as is John Smith ? --- Perhaps

2. Did he really invent the TARDIS ? ......... Like the above, the question is, do WE really trust anything he say's ?

Note:
Doctor Who and the Daleks was released in 1965.

Besides Hartnell, at the time, the Cushing Movies were it.
Today looking back, note how many Doctor's borrowed on some parts of Peter Cushing's Doctor's character

Troughton and McCoy for sure

[palitoy]

Weird I just bought the DVD and watched it on a plane going home.

I liked it a lot better as a kid but still find it a fun little time waster. It's done so early in the series history that the "Dr.Who" character is merely the bun for the meat that is the Daleks. (I probably could have put that better)

It's a nice redressing of the original story, AARU most likely made the Doctor human because the Terry Nation teleplay they bought had no backstory for the Tardis crew and they needed to make it simple, especially for an international audience.

I love that the Daleks have Lava Lamps in their control room but I remember the TARDIS interior looking cooler when I was a kid.

[palitoy]

>The movie is also a blatant rip-off of The Time Machine (from 5 years earlier),

Well, the Thal do somewhat resemble the Eloi but the whole "Hey you peaceniks, rise up against the bad guys" theme as Don pointed out is not new, it's not even from the Well's book.

[Mikey]

Something I thought of just now ........
You know how prequels always seem to not fit in with established story lines ?

It's very hard to believe Genesis of the Daleks took place millennia before Doctor Who and the Daleks.

[palitoy]

Something I thought of just now ........
You know how prequels always seem to not fit in with established story lines ?

It's very hard to believe Genesis of the Daleks took place millennia before Doctor Who and the Daleks.

It's hard to listen to purists claim the new series isn't connected when Genesis is pretty much a big retcon. It's actually a better foundation for the Daleks (although I don't care for Davros personally).

As I recall from my hardcore fandom days, the first Daleks story now takes place late in their history after the Daleks themselves have had a war. It leaves a lot to be desired, such as the whole "Dals" thing, the fact that Thals survived and how come the Daleks don't recognize the Doctor?

[wolfie]

When you watch this film you have to watch it as if you were in 1965 when it was made, it was great then.
Watching it now with everything that has come and gone in-between it doea not fare too well.

[Mikey]

Love it or hate it, this movie did start Dalekmania --- which probably carried over and saved the actual series.

I'm not sure how popular the series was back then, but I bet the Dalek movies brought in a lot more TV viewers.

m

edited to add,

Strange as it may sound... I know a few people who LOVE the Dalek movies and couldn't care less about the series.

They treat the movies as an entity in itself with no connection to the series (which they don't like)

[Bo8a_Fett]

The movie was a rewritten version of "The daleks/mutants/survivors" (depending on what title you prefer), which was the 3rd story shown in the Hartnell era...in december 1963. This is generally believed to be the story that made Dr Who succesful, there was an instant success for the Daleks which were quickly brought back for Dalek invasion of earth (remade as the 2nd Cushing film) the very next year (many fans were outraged that the only Dalek to appear in the first episode was in the last minute). This was the true start of dalekmania, which in turn prompted the making of the 2 films.
The novilisation of the original story was also different from both the film version and the tv story...David Whitticker wrote his own version of the dalek history in the dalek comic strips....Terry Nation was at the time trying to sell tha Daleks as a stand alone TV series in the states (Evil of the Daleks was going to be the LAST dalek story in Dr Who).
It was the first time that Dr Who had been seen in colour...and didn't so much as add viewers, it was mainly fans reseeing an old story IN COLOUR....Dr Who was very popular at this time in the UK.