Walking Dead Season 7

[Nostalgiabuff]

Dedicated to Bernie Wrightson was a nice touch.

agreed. I thought that was really a classy things to do

[Mego Milk]

Dedicated to Bernie Wrightson was a nice touch.

[Iron Mego]

The writing has actually been so bad for the last two or three seasons it's kind of insulting. So there are at least three, probably more, occasions when Negan should have been toast (Sasha, the lion--twice in fact, and Rick being an inch away from his face) and nothing happens. I can't forgive that kind of non-sense. I'm officially done.

[Hector]

If they can point a gun and pull the trigger they'd be of use...

Like they did against Rick, snitch Tera, and two or three other people?

Seriously...Oceanside could help...but I just can't get over how insipid and lame that they were overpowered by a vastly smaller and inferior force...truly illogical...bad writing all around, lazy in fact...

[hedrap]

But he's a complete caricature here, from the swagger to the speech pattern to the constant smirk. And he's shot far too often upwards to make him look theoretically larger and more menacing. All he's missing is holding a light under his chin to look more spooky. The dialog he's given isn't much, but he certainly hasn't made it any better with his interpretation. I find I want him killed off, not because I hate the character, but because I'm tired of it.

The last episode was just OK. We've been building up towards it since the end of last season, and the payoff off didn't warrant that investment. Obviously the big death was Sasha and that was hardly a surprise. Maggie's speech at the end left me flat. It was a fitting end to the worst season of the series. Maybe this episode will be better in hindsight once we start next season.

I don't want him around after all-out war. Simon has been a better threat.

Since on-set reports confirmed reshoots, all the fight scenes with Michonne and Sasha are insert shots, meaning there's no frame continuity with the other actors. For example, how does zombie-Sasha just wander off. The dead are attracted to noise and people, why would she leave the firefight and how did she not get shot to pieces in the crossfire?

My guess is Danai/Michonne was going to leave. She's shooting Black Panther now and has a lot of worked offered/lined up. But then Senequa/Sasha got the Trek gig and CBS wouldn't accommodate her schedule, which she and TWD people had alluded to after the anouncement. TWD execs knew they couldn't kill off both black female leads in the same ep without causing an incident, so they moved Rosita's death onto Sasha and shot Michonne's scenes two ways in case they had to cliffhanger her survival.

That's my gut take, because all Sasha scenes in the finale are inserts and the motivation given in one episode negates almost her entire story arc. If you remove the Abraham scenes, her eating the pills stills works because she has been on a literal suicide run since not just Abe's death but her brother's and Bob. That was her sniper subplot from last year and how she connected with Abe. Then, in one ep, her motivation is a valiant sacrifice for the team based off a conversation she's never alluded to?

I think the Garbage Gang swerve falls into the same mess. The producers needed the swerve to create false tension, like the boat zombies at Oceanside. But if Jadis negotiations are so mercurial, how could she not listen to see if Rick was willing to make a better offer? Negan was offering people? Rick could match that from Negan's survivors. But, if she did switch back, Negan's entire crew is dead.

It's a really soap opera ending. I'm guessing it's a side effect from all the "this is so bleak" criticism from Terminus/Wolves. They must think they've lost audience due to it being so downbeat. The problem, to me, is the repetition of scenarios.

[drquest]

Oceanside? You mean that formidable Amazonian community who was overpowered and disarmed of all their weapons by Rick and a couple of others in under one minute? That Oceanside?

If they can point a gun and pull the trigger they'd be of use...

[emeraldknight47]

Oceanside? You mean that formidable Amazonian community who was overpowered and disarmed of all their weapons by Rick and a couple of others in under one minute? That Oceanside?

Yeah, I can't see whereas they would be of much benefit, either, but hey---woman power!!!

[Hector]

That junk/garbage people, which seems to be a matriarchal society...

Why do they all speak like that? Pretty silly if you ask me. I mean, I can see an entire generation that has passed after a zombie apocalypse talking like that. But only after less than one decade? Please, lol...

[Hector]

I assume the Oceanside people will join as well.

Oceanside? You mean that formidable Amazonian community who was overpowered and disarmed of all their weapons by Rick and a couple of others in under one minute? That Oceanside?

[rykerw1701]

Yeah, that was really drawn out and melodramatic. The end shot is literally three people grandstanding.

Jeffrey Dean Morgan is really...not good in this part. He's like a villain from Pirates o/t Carribean or my favorite, Post-Apocalypse Fonzie. I can't blame him totally.

The garbagebag gang swerve was meh. Terminus was still more threatening than the Saviors.

I agree. I liked him alright in the Watchmen, which I didn't like much as a movie. But he's a complete caricature here, from the swagger to the speech pattern to the constant smirk. And he's shot far too often upwards to make him look theoretically larger and more menacing. All he's missing is holding a light under his chin to look more spooky. The dialog he's given isn't much, but he certainly hasn't made it any better with his interpretation. I find I want him killed off, not because I hate the character, but because I'm tired of it.

The last episode was just OK. We've been building up towards it since the end of last season, and the payoff off didn't warrant that investment. Obviously the big death was Sasha and that was hardly a surprise. Maggie's speech at the end left me flat. It was a fitting end to the worst season of the series. Maybe this episode will be better in hindsight once we start next season.

[drquest]

I've not read any on TWD, whether it be in floppy format or compilation form, so what know about certain characters/groups is largely from hearsay and random references here and there. That being said, I didn't trust the "Garbagepail Gang" from the outset (and neither should have Rick), and then in last week's episode when Negan mention "a little bird" telling him about Rick's plan, I kinda figured it had to be the GG.

It was good to FINALLY see Rick and company take some action against The Saviors, but were it not for The Kingdom (go Shiva!) and The Hilltop, Rick and company would have been looking at yet another bloodbath on the part of his people.

As it is, seeing all the "troops" Negan has, as well as his alliance(?) with the GG, Rick and the others are going to have to come up with either much more massive numbers or weapons of greater power to take down The Saviors. Plus, now that Alexandria, The Hilltop and The Kingdom have played their cards, what's to stop Negan from sending heavily armed contingents into all three communities and just wiping them out one by one?

I assume the Oceanside people will join as well.

The episode wasn't great, and they telegraphed it weeks ago that Sasha was going away, but I thought there might be others. Oh well.... what's another 6 months to wait right? I hope the writers can do something better in season 8.

[emeraldknight47]

I've not read any of TWD, whether it be in floppy format or compilation form, so what know about certain characters/groups is largely from hearsay and random references here and there. That being said, I didn't trust the "Garbagepail Gang" from the outset (and neither should have Rick). Then, in last week's episode when Negan mentions "a little bird" telling him about Rick's plan, I kinda figured it had to be the GG.

It was good to FINALLY see Rick and company take some action against The Saviors, but were it not for The Kingdom (go Shiva!) and The Hilltop, Rick and company would have been looking at yet another bloodbath on the part of his people.

As it is, seeing all the "troops" Negan has, as well as his alliance(?) with the GG, Rick and the others are going to have to come up with either much more massive numbers or weapons of greater power to take down The Saviors. Plus, now that Alexandria, The Hilltop and The Kingdom have played their cards, what's to stop Negan from sending heavily armed contingents into all three communities and just wiping them out one by one?

[Mikey]

I laughed when the tiger conveniently attacked the generic guy even though Negan was standing right next to him, talking and making movements with the bat

Who writes this stuff ?

[hedrap]

Yeah, that was really drawn out and melodramatic. The end shot is literally three people grandstanding.

Jeffrey Dean Morgan is really...not good in this part. He's like a villain from Pirates o/t Carribean or my favorite, Post-Apocalypse Fonzie. I can't blame him totally.

The garbagebag gang swerve was meh. Terminus was still more threatening than the Saviors.

[drquest]

so did I miss something? when did they do away with Gregory? I mean last week he is contemplating stabbing Maggie in the back and then this week just passing mention that he is gone and Maggie is in charge

I think you missed it. Last weeks episode he yelled at one of his guys to pack a bag and said you're driving me somewhere. Which meant the Sanctuary.