Wolf an vs. Dracula

[madmarva]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159...pf_rd_i=507846

Is this an actual upshot script or a "what if" type effort?

[PNGwynne]

My guess is "what if". The poster art is great!

When/why did werewolves become so darn formidable against nosferatu? Vampires are technically already immortal werewolves.

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Well, Dracula did run from the Wolfman in A&C Meet Frankenstein. He even through a potted plant at him!

Chris

[torgospizza]

Is this an actual upshot script or a "what if" type effort?

According to the reviews on Amazon, it's the real deal. One guy suggests it's a hoax, and a few commenters rip him a new one, stating that the author is an actual scholar on the subject.

[PNGwynne]

^A film scholar who unearthed a script treatment? Or a folklorist?

[PNGwynne]

^Well, Dracula did run from the Wolfman in A&C Meet Frankenstein. He even through a potted plant at him!

Chris

I love Bela, but I roll my eyes every time at that part. Dracula was never served very well at Uni.

[torgospizza]

^A film scholar who unearthed a script treatment? Or a folklorist?

I'm not an apologist for the guy or anything, but he looks legit.

http://www.goodreads.com/author/list/19889.Philip_J_Riley

[danadoll]

I would have loved to have seen this movie in among the other Universal Monster Movies! I adored all of those movies, even the ones with John Carradine as Dracula, as I know he's not a favorite of many (I frequently try to picture Bela in the role in those). John C is a bit more physical/violent in the role (as was Lon Chaney Jr) and I like that. I really love seeing Bela's Dracula battling the Wolf Man in A&C Meet Frankenstein, it was nice to see some physical action from his Dracula, instead of the standing and staring that Bela is famous for.

Dana

[PNGwynne]

Torgo, now that you linked it, I seem to recall Werewolf mentioning Riley's Phantom book to me...

[torgospizza]

Torgo, now that you linked it, I seem to recall Werewolf mentioning Riley's Phantom book to me...

I was looking at his list and some of those books look pretty cool. He co-authored one with Forrest Ackerman, IIRC--I bet that would be an entertaining read. Anyway, the only reason I started investigating the guy was because I was puzzled about it. The term "alternate history" makes it sound like it could have been a fictional book about an imaginary script. For a Wolf Man fan like me, it might be worth getting just to read the unproduced script.

[enyawd72]

It's on the level. Philip Riley is an expert on the subject. You'd be surprised at how different the world of Universal monsters almost was. For instance, Lon Chaney Senior was originally going to play Dracula. The director, Tod Browning was a longtime Chaney collaborator. When Chaney died in 1930, Conrad Veidt was next considered to play Dracula. Of course, we all know Bela Lugosi ended up in the role. Subsequently, Lugosi was offered Frankenstein, but didn't want a non-speaking role, so it went to Boris Karloff. If Lon Chaney Senior had lived, neither Lugosi or Karloff would've become horror stars, and history would be very different.