Jaws 3

[LOU]

Ohhh you guys would be SHOCKED at the number of Jaws 3-D and Jaws The Revenge fans there are in the world! So many that we had to include the Jaws The Revenge filming locations in our "JAWSFEST FILMS". Me, I'm a Jaws and Jaws 2 kind of guy. The other two let me down but I prefer Jaws The Revenge to Jaws 3-D...but that's like determining which pile of dung smells better...

[HardyGirl]

Two words:

It sucked.

End of discussion.

[thunderbolt]

I have to admit Spidey3 and Supes3 have a lot in common---"goofball" stuff
that I didn't take too seriously----I thought both were repeat watchers.

Want a good laugh T-bolt and guys?

My favorite JURRASIC PARK?

The mostly maligned numbah THREE

I actually like JP3, it was a really good throwback to the old b-movies. As far as BK's other good 3's. Rush Hour 1,2,3 or whatever I won't give the time of day to. I can't stand that idiot Chris Tucker.

[Gorn Captain]

...
Part 3 had Luis Gospel Jr. ,.. or whatever

Best....actor name...ever.....

[Gorn Captain]

OK, I'll admit it.
I have the soundtrack to Jaws III.

Good soundtrack, lousy movie. It happens.

[thunderbolt]

Return of the Jedi qualifies as a 3 right??

[BlackKnight]

Return of the Jedi qualifies as a 3 right??

I know all the Ewoks look like your Dogs..., But come-on Man..., that wasn't better the Empire. Even with the Cool 1st half Skit with all the Jabba Stuff.

[thunderbolt]

NO, BK I was going to qualify it as a crappy 3 movie if it counts. At the time it was the third SW movie.

[MIB41]

I knew Dennis Quaid was officially a B-actor for good once he associated himself with Jaws 3. But Jaws 4? C'mon guys. One of the worst films of all time. Now don't tell me none of you recognized the silly sound effects originally used for Spot (from the Munsters) when Jaws is harpooned at the end? C'MON!!! That is cheese DELUXE! That is one of those moments when you say, "What were they thinking about?"

[Mikey]

I personally think Jaws-3 was written and produced as a "camp" takeoff on B movies of the 50's and 60's (the 3-D proves my point) but perhaps the studio decided to not market it like that after it was already in the can.
They probably thought they'd make more money marketing it as the older Jaws movies - aka horror.
This totally ruined what it was probably intended to be -- ie The Incredible Shrinking Woman of it's time.

There's just too much going on in Jaws-3 that makes me think it was a wink-wink comedy but nobody got it because the studio f'ed up.

[TEXASFETT]

Well for one they where smoking crack while watching a 3-D movie and that's how Jaws 3 came to be.

[LOU]

I personally think Jaws-3 was written and produced as a "camp" takeoff on B movies of the 50's and 60's (the 3-D proves my point) but perhaps the studio decided to not market it like that after it was already in the can.
They probably thought they'd make more money marketing it as the older Jaws movies - aka horror.
This totally ruined what it was probably intended to be -- ie The Incredible Shrinking Woman of it's time.

There's just too much going on in Jaws-3 that makes me think it was a wink-wink comedy but nobody got it because the studio f'ed up.

No, Richard Zanuck and David Brown, producers of Jaws and Jaws 2 wanted to make a third Jaws movie that was a send-up to and a parody of the hassles of making Jaws and Jaws 2. It was to be a National Lampoon comedy titled "Jaws 3, People 0". Universal wanted nothing to do with this idea because they wanted another "screamer". At this point Zanuck/Brown said "well forget it then" and they separated themeselves from the "serious" "Jaws 3" that the studio wanted to make.
So they took Jaws and Jaws 2 Production Designer Joe Alves as director (who almost helmed Jaws 2 when Spielberg was unavailable because he was shooting "Close Encounters" at that time) and enlisted Jaws and Jaws 2 screenwriter Carl Gottlieb to write some of the story. The decision to make it in 3-D (and call it Jaws 3-D) was just a response to the "3-D fad" back then.


Unfortunately, identical to Jaws and Jaws 2, the production of "Jaws 3-D" went way over budget and schedule until finally the studio made them put the film together before some scenes were even finished. Scenes weren't done, effects weren't polished, etc. This is largely why "Jaws 3-D" looks so poor.

1987's Jaws The Revenge was simply the brainchild of Universal Studios executive Sid Sheinberg. He devised the film as a vehicle to relaunch his wife, Lorraine Gary (Ellen Brody in Jaws and Jaws 2), into a film role where she got top billing for the first time. That was the only reason that film was made...at least that's the speculation on that. Many people consider "Jaws The Revenge" the "real Jaws 3" (thus no "4" in the title).

I myself wish they had left things alone after Jaws 2 but Hollywood is Hollywood. Without Roy Scheider in the lead and without Zanuck/Brown producing the last two; that should have been reason in and of itself to leave things alone after the respectable Jaws 2, a sequel that was far, far better than it probably should have been...

[MIB41]

I myself wish they had left things alone after Jaws 2 but Hollywood is Hollywood. Without Roy Scheider in the lead and without Zanuck/Brown producing the last two; that should have been reason in and of itself to leave things alone after the respectable Jaws 2, a sequel that was far, far better than it probably should have been...

Very true. I have always felt like Jaws II was a vastly under-rated film given what it had to followup from. Let's face it, what chances did a young director have to create a sequel to the biggest movie of all time from one of the biggest directors of all time? You would think it was doomed from the inception. But actually I thought the film held up really well. Sure there was a degree of Spielberg-mimmicking going on in the approach, with pseudo-character development played out with the various "tender" moments between the kids and those between Brody and his wife after he was fired. But the film itself had some real energy while Brody was having to prove what he had feared... the Great White was back. The audience walked in his shoes and felt his fear.

What was truly missing was the actual violence of the shark. I CLEARLY remember this film being the victim of an outcry at that time to tame the "gore" in films and the original Jaws was pointed to for it's graphic violence. Jaws II had to pay the price so there was very little blood. This Jaws "swallowed 'em whole!" For myself, that took some of the edge off the film and the disfigured burn marks on the side of the shark made it look less scary and more make-believe (I guess because it no longer looked exactly like a shark and more monster-like). Without any blood dripping from the jaws of the shark, it ceased to hold that same spell of fear over me and became more or less a standard Hollywood monster. But for the most part, the story worked and the acting was fairly descent. And to some degree there was a feeling of continuity that actually fit with the original, so that by itself was a real accomplishment. A fun movie though and one I still like to put in today. You appreciate it even more after you see Jaws III and IV.

[LOU]

Agreed MIB. Jaws 2 was indeed a good film. The only bad reviews you'll really find for it are all cliche ridden drivel. "It copied the first one", "it was a rip-off of the first one", blah blah blah. A good movie review doesn't use old and tired sequel critique cliches.

Fact is, Jaws 2 was far different than Jaws, save for the basic premise of a shark eating people...and if people have issue with that basic premise being the same, they should have paid a bit better attention to the marquee at the theater entrance that had a big, red "2" on it before they bought their tickets.
In Jaws, the town knew there was a shark and chose to ignore it. In Jaws 2, only the viewer knows there's a shark for sure for a good portion of the film. That was a completely new suspense tactic unlike Jaws. In Jaws they (Brody) intentionally set out on the Orca to hunt the shark. In Jaws 2 it was sheer happenstance that led up to Brody facing the second shark; he was only out there to fetch the kids and go home; good writing here. In Jaws, the shark wasn't seen until the second act of the film. In Jaws 2 it was seen from the get-go.
So you can see why I am replulsed and disgusted by those repeated ignorant reviews that just throw around the same old sequel critique cliches written above. Nothing of substance or true intelligence is ever written...some of the reviews don't even get the town's name right! LMAO! They call it Long Island! Ummm, it was Amity Island ya' buffoon. It only leads me to my usual repsonse to these critics, WATCH the frickin' movie before you write a review.
Among the Jaws fan community, of which I am heavily involved, Jaws 2 is loved by most fans. The only one's who ever seem to ***** about it are the Spielberg-biased folk.
I've always said that Spielberg gets FAR too much credit for Jaws, in SOME respects. He is acclaimed for hiding the shark and people falsely attribute that to his genious.
This is not true. In fact, the shark was supposed to be seen right from the opening scene; the only reason it wasn't was because "Bruce" the shark never worked. So it got to a point where they had to make due without the shark. Thus was born the yellow barrels seen throughout the film.
Bruce the shark only worked one day and all it's scenes were shot in one day; all in Katama Bay on Martha's Vineyard. This is another reason why Jaws 2 impresses me. Not only, as you mention, did it have HUGE shoes to fill; but it also had to show the shark from the beginning. "Brucette" was also to do more spectacular things in this film; FAR more than Bruce in Jaws, in spite of the Jaws 2 crew experiencing the same exact problems that Spielberg faced with Bruce. The salt water and mechanics simply do not bode well together. Jaws 2 director Jeannot Szwarc has said that everyone was telling him to hide the shark like Spielberg did. He replied that the shark popping up for the first time already happened in the first film, it could never be recreated; so he decided the shark needed to be seen from the beginning, which it was. Great call by Jeannot and another BIG glaring difference between the original and the sequel. ("It copied the first one" LMAO! Yeah okay LOL!) That made Jaws 2 even harder to make than Jaws, and I'm sure you've heard the legendary story of the making of Jaws before since there's been so many docs about it on TV and such.
So I have a tremendous amount of repsect for Jeannot and Jaws 2 and I love the film. Even today I still say it was probably the hardest sequel to make in history because;
a.) you are trying to top what was a record-breaking film at that time that was already a cultural phenemenon
b.) Jaws had major production problems with the shark only needing to be seen for about 10 minutes of screen time. Jaws 2 had to show the thing throughout the entire movie.

So Jaws 2 was clearly a pretty damned good sequel that had all the odds heavily stacked against it. Even today it still plays as a nice compliment to Spielberg's first masterpiece. One positive Jaws 2 review I did read once ended with a sentence I often quote, "Jaws 2 was a far, far better film than it had any business being."

[tay666]

Something about part 3 sequels. Superman, Jaws,X3, Batman Forever, Spider-Man, Trek They just suck eggs.

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