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  • Gorn Captain
    Invincible Ironing Man
    • Feb 28, 2008
    • 10549

    The joy of a convention booth!

    I only do a couple of SciFi conventions a year, selling off some stuff, and the one in my home town is the biggest (40,000 visitors).
    More visitors doesn't equal bigger sales, though.
    Yet again, people ask the most interesting questions.
    Like "why does this cost money, why is it so expensive?"
    It's a philosophical and economics question, you may think, but in most cases it's not so highbrow.
    So you explain "it's a toy that's 40 years old, still in the box, and rather rare."
    "Yeah, but why does it cost $80?"
    This kind of kills the conversation for me. I used to try and explain it: "An old painting also costs more money, right?"
    They just stare back, waving a crisp 10 euro bill, and expecting me to come down about 85%....

    Vintage stuff seems to be in a deep depression, you can't give away vintage SW. You either find a customer looking for case fresh, C-10 stuff, or people asking silly questions. They'll ask to see all of the parts, they inspect them, and you know they're just there to browse "museum style" with no intention of buying.
    This time, during my rare bathroom break, my friend says I need to come back immediately.
    I run back, and a guy "wants to see the person in charge".
    He then asks me: "You had a Leia on Jedi card, and now it's gone!"
    "Yeah, I sold it."
    "I have had my eye on that figure for three years now, and I assumed you would never sell it. And now it's gone."
    I already had diarreah before I met this guy, and it didn't get any better after this sparkling banter. I left. He continued talking to my co-worker for 45 minutes.

    I think I've come to the point when I can no longer stand these long debates. Conventions that have become so big that most of your customers aren't diehard collectors who know their stuff, but "browsers", spending a lazy afternoon looking at weird dolls.
    "What is this figure?" they ask.
    "Devilman."
    "Ah. I know nothing about this. Can you tell us what it is about?"
    Yeah, tell us the story, wise old man....

    My "fondest" memory, etched in my mind, is when a woman dressed as Wonder Woman came over. She was about 150 pounds too much Wonder. I mean, excess Wonder was overflowing her tiny costume. She came over to my booth, leaned over the table to check something out, and both breasts decided they couldn't take it anymore and bailed out. Right on top of my carded SW figures. "Meesa totally crushed", I heard Jar Jar sigh. She scooped up her bare breasts and stuffed them back into her outfit. And continued browsing. I think I lost most of my vision in my left eye after that.

    I'm getting told for this s***...
    This was my last booth, I tell you.
    Last edited by Gorn Captain; Nov 3, '14, 10:41 AM.
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  • palitoy
    live. laugh. lisa needs braces
    • Jun 16, 2001
    • 59772

    #2
    I tend to shy away from those kinds of events for that reason, the big cons draw the crowds but not necessarily vintage collectors. Plus you're competing with all the other stuff at the show and a high ticket price to get in.

    Better to go a smaller vintage toy show (with slower table rates) and you'll get better results. I could spend $2,000 on a booth at Fan Expo here or $50 for a table at a Burlington Toy show, trust me when I saw the latter is a better use of my time.

    Sure the smaller show only attracts at best 1/100th of the people of the bigger show but they're all there to buy vintage toys and they all paid a measly $5 to get in the door.
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    • Gorn Captain
      Invincible Ironing Man
      • Feb 28, 2008
      • 10549

      #3
      You're absolutely right.
      These big events have so much to offer the visitor (autographs sessions, comic book artists, fan club exhibitions) that people like me get drowned by it all.
      And I do understand that when somebody takes the family to such an event and pays $50 to get them all tickets, that there's little money left to spend.
      The convention organisors seem to think that tripling their number of dealers is a good thing, but that is not the case. Only big stores offering massive discounts (to purge inventory) sell well.
      More and more, little guys like me stay away from this kind of event. What you're left with is tons of new product, the same thing at every booth.

      Unfortunately, small events are very rare here. I use to co-run this convention, but I left when it all got too big. It was a lot more fun when it was smaller...
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      • starsky
        veteran member
        • Aug 26, 2007
        • 6207

        #4
        yeah, i'm not a big show/convention type either. the tables are a lot more expensive, so the dealers have to charge more for their stuff and plus there's more competition for business so you're practically giving your stuff away.

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        • palitoy
          live. laugh. lisa needs braces
          • Jun 16, 2001
          • 59772

          #5
          I personally don't even attend "Megacons" anymore. I don't like crowds very much and when I do see vintage stuff, the prices are never fair. Case in point, we went to the Fan Expo this summer (kids wanted to see Matt Smith) and I saw Mego Kirk for $250 and a $600 boxed Shogun Warrior.

          At any smaller show I could have wrangled both of them for $250.

          You should use your show running experience and make a small vintage show, you'd be surprised at many people you'll get.
          Places to find PlaidStallions online: https://linktr.ee/Plaidstallions

          Buy Toy-Ventures Magazine here:
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          • Nostalgiabuff
            Muddling through
            • Oct 4, 2008
            • 11423

            #6
            thanks for the laugh Rik. my son asked why I was laughing so hard but I could not share that WW story. I feel your pain though, I can't bring myself to bother selling at this point

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            • Mr.Marion
              Permanent Member
              • Sep 15, 2014
              • 2733

              #7
              Yeah vintage dealers can't hang financial at conventions. I'm not sure on the current vintage star wars market I sold all my pieces last year to pay for wgsh. Star Wars really is the enemy in my book it killed the mego era and also SciFi b-movies. I can't stand for that.
              Last edited by Mr.Marion; Nov 3, '14, 9:25 PM.

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