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  • MIB41
    Eloquent Member
    • Sep 25, 2005
    • 15633

    Van Halen tour cancelled, says Rolling Stone

    Did we really think it would last?

    Rolling Stone : The Official Word: Van Halen Tour Kaput
  • toys2cool
    Ultimate Mego Warrior
    • Nov 27, 2006
    • 28605

    #2
    Really? wow that sucks,although it doesn't surprise me one bit
    "Time to nut up or shut up" -Tallahassee

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    • theantiquetiger
      Fra-gee-lay Thats Italian
      • Nov 12, 2005
      • 3435

      #3
      So what, I liked Haggar better (even though my first concert was "1984"). Now with the untalented Roth and no Michael, it is not Van Halen. I would rather see Eddie live solo.
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      • Zemo
        Still Smokin'
        • Feb 14, 2006
        • 3888

        #4
        Come on man, That article is from 2/21/07. Try posting something recent and not fueling internet rumors. Eddie's sick.http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdail...medical-tests/
        Last edited by Zemo; Mar 4, '08, 11:49 PM.

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        • nvmbrsdoom5
          Persistent Member
          • Mar 1, 2005
          • 1627

          #5
          That news bit that the link takes us to is outdated, it's from last february (2007) when they first cancelled their tour, before it was rescheduled later. Initially it was reported earlier today that the whole tour might be cancelled due to Eddie's current "issues" but now word has it that the current VH tour has just ben rescheduled due to some medical issues that Eddie is having. Here's the most recent bit I found...

          Rolling Stone : Van Halen Dates Postponed As Eddie Van Halen Undergoes Medical Tests

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          • nvmbrsdoom5
            Persistent Member
            • Mar 1, 2005
            • 1627

            #6
            Oops Zemo just beat me to it!!

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            • huedell
              Museum Ball Eater
              • Dec 31, 2003
              • 11069

              #7
              Originally posted by theantiquetiger
              So what, I liked Haggar better (even though my first concert was "1984"). Now with the untalented Roth and no Michael, it is not Van Halen. I would rather see Eddie live solo.
              Maybe your definition of "talent" is based off some kinda AMERICAN IDOL type
              sterileness? I dunno----but thems' some pretty big words to say about the man
              that along with Ed helped lead VH thru 6 multi-platinum albums and established a
              band so that Hagar could have something to build his "older & safer" VH off of
              ----oh yeah---Roth also helped VH establish---not only the band----but basically
              created the whole party hard rock genre...

              Hagar (one "g") era VH might as well be 80s Journey or Bad English
              or some other vanilla middle of the road schlock---and while that may be
              passable music in some circles (hey I love me some "Open Arms") --- its like
              nails on a chalkboard for the fans of the ROTH lineup(s) who appreciate the
              VAN HALEN band for the vibe it was built on which was 97% Roth, 97% Ed
              and two percent the other guys (fawning over Mikey's angellic backing vox
              withstanding----take it down a notch already---its just some high backing
              vocals for cripes' sake)

              If Roth ever exits VH again it'll be one of the worst travesties in rock history
              just as it was the few times before (if you count 1996 and the times in the
              early 2000s when they tried to make it work)

              Loving "Hagar VH" and hating "Roth VH" is like loving an apple tree for this
              seasons' leaves and hating the apples----you can do that---it just doesn't
              make much sense

              Oh---and---by the way---

              I agree---Internet misinformation is a bad thing.

              I've heard this may be cancelled too---but as fas as I know---there's no
              confirmation yet

              Rock on kids.
              Last edited by huedell; Mar 4, '08, 11:54 PM.
              "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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              • thunderbolt
                Hi Ernie!!!
                • Feb 15, 2004
                • 34211

                #8
                Originally posted by theantiquetiger
                So what, I liked Haggar better (even though my first concert was "1984"). Now with the untalented Roth and no Michael, it is not Van Halen. I would rather see Eddie live solo.
                Don't remember what movie it was from, but that's the test to determine if someone is a narc. Ask them if they like Hagar or Roth better, the narc goes with whitebread Van Hagar everytime. Its like saying you like Wings better than the Beatles.
                You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                • huedell
                  Museum Ball Eater
                  • Dec 31, 2003
                  • 11069

                  #9
                  Originally posted by thunderbolt
                  Don't remember what movie it was from, but that's the test to determine if someone is a narc. Ask them if they like Hagar or Roth better, the narc goes with whitebread Van Hagar everytime. Its like saying you like Wings better than the Beatles.
                  I can't resist...

                  Airheads (1994)
                  ---------------
                  Chazz: Okay, lemme ask you a question: who's side did you take in
                  the big David Lee Roth-Van Halen split?

                  Chris Moore: What?

                  Marcus: What kind of question is that?

                  Chazz: Who's side did you take: Halen or Roth?

                  Chris Moore: ...Van Halen

                  Ian: HE'S A COP!
                  Seriously though...regardless of any fruits borne from Hagar's alliance
                  with Eddie...what the Van Hagar-era did to neuter
                  THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN ranks as one of the greatest rock and roll
                  sins of all-time.
                  "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                  • Mikey
                    Verbose Member
                    • Aug 9, 2001
                    • 47258

                    #10
                    Van Halen was cool when Roth was the lead man......
                    After him, they seemed like any other forgettable 80's band.

                    Remember the old rumours when Roth left and they were thinking about getting Patti Smyth to replace him ?
                    At least THAT would have been interesting

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                    • huedell
                      Museum Ball Eater
                      • Dec 31, 2003
                      • 11069

                      #11
                      Regarding your words Mike---I agree with the "fogettable band" aspect you stated--

                      Yes, over the years I realized that it wasn't so much that I "hated" Sammy---or
                      the "Van Hagar" era as much as I hated the CHANGE of what VH represented
                      going from ROTH (a unique animal...love him or hate him) to HAGAR (more middle-of-the road).

                      If they would've gotten Smyth like Eddie said he wanted, at least it would've been
                      such a heavy left-hand turn from expectations (a female fronted VH?!) that that
                      would've been more palatable for guys like me that were (are) so bitter about the
                      ROTH/VAN HALEN Breakup and the VH-lite that VAN HAGAR represented.
                      "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                      • Mikey
                        Verbose Member
                        • Aug 9, 2001
                        • 47258

                        #12
                        Love 'em or hate him ......

                        I think everyone would agree

                        Roth was/is a nut, he's got the pipes, he's arrogant and he call thrill an audience with a terrific show.

                        That combo totally makes him the epitome of THE ROCK STAR...

                        IMO, Eddie shouldn't of never let him go...... no matter what

                        Can you imagine Van Halen TODAY if Roth never left ?

                        We're talking almost Beatles or Stones here ......

                        Instead, they're a washed-up band that nobody really cares about ..

                        I think Eddie dropped the ball big-time..... no matter what he does, he'll never recover.

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                        • theantiquetiger
                          Fra-gee-lay Thats Italian
                          • Nov 12, 2005
                          • 3435

                          #13
                          Originally posted by huedell
                          Maybe your definition of "talent" is based off some kinda AMERICAN IDOL type
                          sterileness? I dunno----but thems' some pretty big words to say about the man
                          that along with Ed helped lead VH thru 6 multi-platinum albums and established a
                          band so that Hagar could have something to build his "older & safer" VH off of
                          ----oh yeah---Roth also helped VH establish---not only the band----but basically
                          created the whole party hard rock genre...

                          Hagar (one "g") era VH might as well be 80s Journey or Bad English
                          or some other vanilla middle of the road schlock---and while that may be
                          passable music in some circles (hey I love me some "Open Arms") --- its like
                          nails on a chalkboard for the fans of the ROTH lineup(s) who appreciate the
                          VAN HALEN band for the vibe it was built on which was 97% Roth, 97% Ed
                          and two percent the other guys (fawning over Mikey's angellic backing vox
                          withstanding----take it down a notch already---its just some high backing
                          vocals for cripes' sake)

                          If Roth ever exits VH again it'll be one of the worst travesties in rock history
                          just as it was the few times before (if you count 1996 and the times in the
                          early 2000s when they tried to make it work)

                          Loving "Hagar VH" and hating "Roth VH" is like loving an apple tree for this
                          seasons' leaves and hating the apples----you can do that---it just doesn't
                          make much sense
                          How long did it take you to copy and paste that from somewhere off the internet.

                          "Roth also helped VH establish---not only the band----but basically
                          created the whole party hard rock genre..."

                          TRY KISS, AREOSMITH, and a couple other bands. VH's first "party" album was 1984, before that, they were just a great band, but no "founding fathers" of a music genre.
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                          • huedell
                            Museum Ball Eater
                            • Dec 31, 2003
                            • 11069

                            #14
                            I don't get what you mean by your "Internet copy and paste" comment antique---
                            and actually I'm afraid to know, as it just sounds like a totally obnoxious jab at me---
                            apologies if I misunderstood that

                            And, as far as KISS and AEROSMITH "creating" the "party hard rock" genre---
                            well---I'm not denying they both had a hand----but VH took it to a whole new level
                            and a whole new place at a time when the standards were being set

                            History has shown that the hard rock party bands of the 80s (the decade where that
                            aspect really took off) were much more influenced by ROTH and his direction
                            in VAN HALEN--- than AEROSMITH and theirs------the term "DAVID LEE ROTH clones"
                            popped up a plenty-----much more than "STEVEN TYLER clone" ever did

                            Even though ROTH's over-the-top persona was derived much from JIM DANDY---well--
                            -ROTH really brought it to the forefront of the music scene for the 80s bands to
                            replicate-----on the other hand, the guy who STEVE TYLER was most often compared to
                            was the MUCH MORE prominent Mick Jagger-----and, in turn----Aerosmith as a whole
                            was compared to that whole "English rock" dealie----while VAN HALEN shone more
                            uniquely as the FIRST (truly) BIG AMERICAN PARTY BAND-----its safe to say that
                            that bunch of comicbook characters from NEW YORK (aka KISS) didn't have quite the
                            same type of blue-collar, down and dirty impact in that vein as the CALIFORNIA party
                            dudes in VH did

                            As far as their "first party album" being 1984----- you don't know what you're typing---
                            -but I forgive you that----as you seem to be a bit skewed anyways----and are a cop
                            "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                            • Adam West
                              Museum CPA
                              • Apr 14, 2003
                              • 6822

                              #15
                              Don't want to add fuel to the fire but VH1 & 2 blew me away when I heard them and had always considered them some of the best albums of all time. When 1984 was released, I remember liking the album a lot but wasn't completely blown away by it like I was 1 and 2 (almost as if VH took a bit of the edge off). I have since come to love 1984 but I can remember having the wow factor the first time I heard "Eruption". I had never heard anyone before or since play the guitar like that...not that there aren't great guitar players but nothing that was so seemingly impossible to play, yet so precise.
                              "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
                              ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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