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  • MIB41
    Eloquent Member
    • Sep 25, 2005
    • 15633

    #61
    Personally I think Depp's portrayal as Sparrow has been made so iconic by our society, that no one can see him in any other role now. His approach to quirky characters has always been in a similar vein, long before the pirates films ever came into being. Now everytime he smiles, people see "Sparrow". It's unfortunate, because I think he's a very good actor. He still remains very diverse in his selection of films if you look at what he's done. I guess the next decade or so will be his lean years in America while our society decides when they've carved out enough angst for liking his pirate movies. Foreign markets don't have these issues. In America we build people up, so we can crush them later.
    Last edited by MIB41; Jul 6, '13, 8:34 PM.

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    • kingdom warrior
      OH JES!!
      • Jul 21, 2005
      • 12478

      #62
      Saw it Earlier today with my son, Freeking Awesome!!!!!!!!!! Great Summer popcorn movie!! Sorry film critics are idiots!!!

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      • YoungOnce
        Career Member
        • Aug 29, 2007
        • 966

        #63
        Yeah... I liked Open Range too Hector. It's a great western, just a completely different kind of western. I think Lone Ranger was going more for a Saturday-afternoon matinee serial type feeling (again, like Indiana Jones) than a serious western. Nothing wrong with either.... Just what you're in the mood for At the time I guess.

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        • spacecaps
          Second Mouse
          • Aug 24, 2011
          • 2093

          #64
          Originally posted by YoungOnce
          But just for the "fun" factor, we had a blast at the Lone Ranger. We left Man of Steel like we had just come out of the Holocaust Museum.
          Well put. Lone Ranger was fun. Man Of Steel was heavy. While Lone Ranger isn't my favorite film of the Summer (that's World War Z) Superman was by far the worst thing I sat through all year in the theater.

          As for comparing this Lone Ranger with other Westerns, I don't think you really can. Westerns like this aren't made any more and the ones that do get made are usually violent and bloody. Unforgiven was great. So was Tombstone. I even liked 3:10 to Yuma a few years back but when was the last time a family friendly Western like this came along? Wild West isn't comparable because of how terrible it is, so maybe Maverick and that was years ago. The movie that has the closest feel to this in recent years is Mask Of Zorro. This was Pirates of the Caribbean in the Desert, not The Good The Bad and The Ugly.
          "Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you."

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          • fallensaviour
            Talkative Member
            • Aug 28, 2006
            • 5620

            #65
            Just got back from LR and thought it was great,my son loved it.
            When they hit the LR theme he was bouncing in his seat.
            Overall I enjoyed this way more than man of steel.
            “When you say “It’s hard”, it actually means “I’m not strong enough to fight for it”. Stop saying its hard. Think positive!”

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            • Hector
              el Hombre de Acero
              • May 19, 2003
              • 31852

              #66
              This thread should be renamed the awesome Lone Ranger and the horrible Man of Steel, lol.

              I just find it funny that in order to justfy Lone Ranger, many of you in this thread have the need to mention and bash the Man of Steel for some reason, I just see it as envy, lol.

              But, you are in the minority, so carry on...

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              • johnmiic
                Adrift
                • Sep 6, 2002
                • 8427

                #67
                Originally posted by Hector
                This thread should be renamed the awesome Lone Ranger and the horrible Man of Steel, lol.

                I just find it funny that in order to justfy Lone Ranger, many of you in this thread have the need to mention and bash the Man of Steel for some reason, I just see it as envy, lol.

                But, you are in the minority, so carry on...

                That would be the other thread In General Buzz too I think.

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                • Earth 2 Chris
                  Verbose Member
                  • Mar 7, 2004
                  • 32981

                  #68
                  I find it interesting that most folks having trouble with MOS have decried the changes it made to Superman, that their Superman wouldn't do this or that... That the tone of the film was too dark for Superman, whose adventures are usually less dour and have more humor in them.

                  Well, the classic version of the Lone Ranger and Tonto wouldn't do ANY of the things you see in this movie. And the tone ups the humor to 11 compared to any other interpretation.

                  The approach is far less reverent than MOS. I enjoyed the film for what it was, because I know they were going to turn it on it's ear anyway. They actually went further overboard with the outrageousness than I anticipated, though. And as others have stated, there are some deadly serious moments, and a few instances of shocking violence, followed by the usual "let's tie 'em up" mentality normally seen in a Lone Ranger story.

                  So for me, although the film is a fun ride, it's a far more schizophrenic film than MOS, where the creators knew what they were going for, and stayed consistent throughout. You can argue that's the wrong approach to Superman, but it was handled well either way.

                  Chris
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                  • VintageMike
                    Permanent Member
                    • Dec 16, 2004
                    • 3385

                    #69
                    I saw the movie and to me it didn't seem to know what tone it wanted exactly. There was no doubt about MOS and whether you agree with the vision or not it was successful because the mass audience accepted it. I also enjoyed it far more than LR and will be adding it to by blu ray collection when it comes out. I'll pass on LR, don't need to see it again.

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                    • enyawd72
                      Maker of Monsters!
                      • Oct 1, 2009
                      • 7904

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Hector
                      I just find it funny that in order to justfy Lone Ranger, many of you in this thread have the need to mention and bash the Man of Steel for some reason, I just see it as envy, lol.
                      I just find it funny that in order to justify Man of Steel, you felt the need to mention and bash Amazing Spider-Man for some reason. You know...the Amazing Spider-Man that beat MOS at the box office?

                      Not too bad for a (and I quote) "skinny pimply teenager".

                      Sorry Hector...I had to.

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                      • Earth 2 Chris
                        Verbose Member
                        • Mar 7, 2004
                        • 32981

                        #71
                        MOS has surpassed ASM's domestic box office.

                        MOS: $273,930,420

                        ASM: $262,030,663

                        That was ASM's final US box office tally, and MOS is still going.

                        Chris
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                        • Chris
                          Persistent Member
                          • Dec 23, 2009
                          • 2279

                          #72
                          Originally posted by enyawd72
                          Critics take this stuff way too seriously. From everything I've read, the film is an over the top cliffhanger serial just like the original Lone Ranger serials, which were far from great films, but were damn entertaining nonetheless.
                          As long as this version entertains, that's all it needs to do.
                          Well put. I agree. For the 2 bucks I'll spend at redbox I'm sure it will be fine.
                          If a Mego figure of God did not exist, it would be necessary for EMCE to invent him.

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                          • Mikey
                            Verbose Member
                            • Aug 9, 2001
                            • 47258

                            #73
                            Cant be no worse than the early 80's movie

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                            • Earth 2 Chris
                              Verbose Member
                              • Mar 7, 2004
                              • 32981

                              #74
                              Cant be no worse than the early 80's movie
                              Well...it's according to how you define "worse". Despite myself, I like "The Legend of the Lone Ranger" for some reason. I think it's that they got the scope right, and it's definitely reverent to the material for the most part. They gave Tonto some dignity beyond grunting broken English all the time. The soundtrack is great, the cinematography is beautiful...but Klinton Spillsbury is a piece of wood with someone else's voice. That essential part is way off, but there are a lot of things they did right. And they set out to make a then-modern interpretation of a Lone Ranger film, and I think they succeeded. The film plays like any western of the 70s or 80s with a masked man thrown in.

                              The new movie has a much better actor in Hammer, who could have played a straight Lone Ranger as well. The over-the-top outrageous spectacle of the film and Depp's usually quirky performance as Tonto are far afield from any other interpretation, and the only western that comes close to it's level of oddness is Raimi's "The Quick and the Dead".

                              I like them both, for different reasons. Neither are what I'd call the perfect Lone Ranger movie. And now that this one bombed, it will be another 30 years before we get another, I'd imagine.

                              Chris
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                              • Hector
                                el Hombre de Acero
                                • May 19, 2003
                                • 31852

                                #75
                                Originally posted by enyawd72
                                I just find it funny that in order to justify Man of Steel, you felt the need to mention and bash Amazing Spider-Man for some reason. You know...the Amazing Spider-Man that beat MOS at the box office?

                                Not too bad for a (and I quote) "skinny pimply teenager".

                                Sorry Hector...I had to.
                                Sorry, but like Chris just said, WRONG!!!!!!

                                Man of Steel has just surpassed ASM.

                                And I don't know where you got me bashing the movie Amazing Spider-Man at, I dug that film, I always keep defending that movie too.

                                P.S. I did call the character of Spidey pimply skinny teenager, but did not personally bashed the movie per day, but I'm honored that you can remember old quotes of mine, it's kinda cool, lol.
                                Last edited by Hector; Jul 11, '13, 10:41 AM.
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