Lone Ranger Is Getting Panned

[Gorn Captain]

Saw the trailer and hated the "let's make it funny" approach, much like it hated the latest Green Hornet.
The Lone Ranger has been pushed back to "sidekick" position, which I also dislike.
A full-blooded Native American should have played Tonto. Obviously too much to ask for...
And I've had my fill of Johnny Depp in just about every movie. I'm expecting him as Darth Depp in the new SW movie.

Apart from all that, I'm really looking forward to this movie...

[Gorn Captain]

I'm a little embarrassed to admit this but I kinda liked Wild, Wild West

Sometimes I worry about you, Mike...

[CrimsonGhost]

I've found that I have no interest in the big summer popcorn blockbuster movie. I'd much rather see the next American Beauty, if that's the example. I don't care about a mindless movie, where I forget about it before I get to the parking lot. I actually went to the theatre to see Lords of Salem, for example, and I thought about it for a week after. I'm not even sure I liked the movie! But it stuck with me and meant something because it was different than all these dumb superhero things over and over and over again.

So Lone Ranger? I don't care if I even see it. Not because of critics, but because I feel like I've seen it already.

[Brazoo]

Maybe this movie will be wildly entertaining, and I hope all the guys on here who are looking forward to it will enjoy it. I don't usually try to form an opinion on a movie before I see it, but this one looks like so many movies I've already seen before that it's very hard to do in this case.

The thing is that I hate Jerry Bruckheimer's stuff...nothing but mindless weak storied, big-budgeted, mindless explosions flicks...his stuff is merely annoying and obnoxious eye-candy.

I agree, but sometimes I can REALLY enjoy a mindless, weak storied, big budget, explosion, eye-candy filck. So, I'm not sure that's the real reason those movies can be so painfully bad - you know?

I think the main difference might be that the filmmakers are not genuinely thinking "this is the movie I'd LOVE to see", and instead they're thinking "this is the movie THEY want to see".

Because when I see something like "Cowboys and Aliens" or "Wild, Wild West" it feels like they're condescending to the audience the whole time in some way - so I imagine that's the problem.

[ctc]

>It's just become so formulaic that it's almost boring.

Hmmmm.... that's been my gripe with stuff for while. It's all the same stuff over and over; even when it's not. So if it's not a direct reboot (HOW MANY Spiderman origins do we need?!?!?) it's an exact clone. (So "RIPD" is "MIB" with "ghosts.") But I don't blame "Hollywood;" I blame the audience. Everyone talks a good game about "Hollywood is SSSOOOOO out of ideas" but announce a Terminator reboot, WITH Arnie and folks lose fluids huge. The producers know the same old names, properties, styles and scripts sell; and they sell 'cos that's what people want.

"The Lone Ranger" may not be the movie we want, but it's the movie we deserve.

Don C.

[Mego Magyar]

Saw the trailer and hated the "let's make it funny" approach, much like it hated the latest Green Hornet.
The Lone Ranger has been pushed back to "sidekick" position, which I also dislike.
A full-blooded Native American should have played Tonto. Obviously too much to ask for...
And I've had my fill of Johnny Depp in just about every movie. I'm expecting him as Darth Depp in the new SW movie.

That's exactly how I feel about it.
They can call it The Lone Ranger but it dosen't look like it to me and I have ZERO interest in see this.

[BlackKnight]

It should be against the Law for Movie Critics to Bash a Movie, till its been in Theaters for 2 Weeks. It's Wrong.

[fallensaviour]

I'm probably in the minority here but I liked Pirates,I like Depp and I'm looking forward to this film...LOL
I love the original Lone Ranger films but I mean seriously have you ever watched them?
They are camp beyond belief.The Lone Rangers disguises were ridiculous,Tonto sounded like a buffoon.
The stories were pretty routine and predictable so I'm not really sure what people are truly expecting here?...LOL

[Brazoo]

"The Lone Ranger" may not be the movie we want, but it's the movie we deserve.

True.

For anyone interested:

Seth Rogan and Even Goldberg were recently on the podcast Marc Maron's W-T-F and gave a brief but (I think) honest account of where things went off the rails for "The Green Hornet".

The most interesting things to me were that they claimed:

1) The studio let them do whatever they wanted for the action scenes, but were very hands on about the character development.

2) The studio wanted to make a GOOD movie - they never got the idea that everyone wasn't trying their best - and they even claimed that they found the studio exec's suggestions helpful.

3) Both the studio and the creative team knew there was something not quite right about the movie, but the audience preview scores were off the charts positive. It was very hard for anyone to justify putting money into reshoots or re-editis after getting high preview scores - so they released it in a weird month and took a shot.

NOT ONCE was there any sentiment about "being true to the original source material" mentioned. It didn't seem important to Rogan/Goldberg OR the studio. To my point of view, the only people who care about that is YOU guys, and you guys only count for a very small piece of the pie. I think to the studios/producers and filmmakers the source material is just brand recognition they need to get a movie funded.

To be honest, that's why I'm often confused about why you guys all get so excited about these movies. I'm not saying you guys shouldn't get excited and enjoy them - I just don't usually get why you do.

[Brazoo]

It should be against the Law for Movie Critics to Bash a Movie, till its been in Theaters for 2 Weeks. It's Wrong.

I think you're kidding, but just in case: the critics don't control when the studios show movies to them, the studios do. They usually hold early screenings specifically for the critics.

[spacecaps]

I'm probably in the minority here but I liked Pirates,I like Depp and I'm looking forward to this film...LOL
I love the original Lone Ranger films but I mean seriously have you ever watched them?
They are camp beyond belief.The Lone Rangers disguises were ridiculous,Tonto sounded like a buffoon.
The stories were pretty routine and predictable so I'm not really sure what people are truly expecting here?...LOL

Well that's nostalgia for ya. Those are the same reasons I think back fondly on the Gi Joe and Transformers cartoons. Watching them today sometimes borders on the idiotic and yet when the movies came out, I'm not sure what I was expecting. My go to line when ever I see a bad movie is, "They can make that but they can't make a He-man movie." I never really thought about what kind of a He-man movie would be made today but I'm pretty sure it won't be the one I have in my head (which is something along the lines of a Lord Of The Rings quest type trilogy seeped in medieval times lore with sci-fi technology that focuses on the MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE, not just He-man.) but that's not what'll get made. I certainly don't want the Filmation cartoon verbatim and I don't want anything close to the live action movie, and if it's anything like Transformers or GI Joe the movie, I'd rather not have it be made at all. So really, I'm looking at a million to one shot that the dusty old relic turned into a modern day movie is going to be something I enjoy. What's funny is that these are the exact reasons I'd rather not see a new Ghostbusters.

It's the anticipation of the thing that drives the interest, not the thing itself which is why I think more often than not, the move trailer turns out to be better than the actual movie. I thought the half-in-the-bag guys made a great point when they reviewed Man Of Steel and that is the movie was perfect for trailers. All the expository dialogue and the action scenes made for great previews but when viewed in the confines of a two hour narrative, it didn't work. But the hype for that movie (and all movies of this kind) was all you needed to get people to see it. No one waited two weeks to see what the rest of the people thought about it. Everyone went the first week to see it for themselves because we were bombarded with images from the film for over a year and the anticipation grew until we HAD to see it. It's like a kid who tears through his presents on Christmas morning looking for the next thing to open, it's not about what's in the box, it's about getting the box itself.

[johnmiic]

It seems to me The Lone Ranger is following the Buddy Cop Film formula. It doesn't mean it's going to be slapstick. I don't think they have applied the Buddy Cop Film formula to Lone Ranger before and it could work in the films favor.

[Zemo]

Wasn't the whole concept about the movie, basically Johnny Depps?, From what I've read that he was the one that pushed for Tonto being more of a leader that a servant. Is the over the top dress not pictured in Indian dress?

[Nostalgiabuff]

I like Depp. for the record I liked Dark Shadows too. i never watched the show so i had no expectations. Lone Ranger has been around so long we all have some idea of what it shoudl be, but today's kids have no idea who the character is. I think the movie will do well and I think it is probably a decent, if not downright good movie. don't slam it until you see it.
anyone remember John Carter? the studio had no idea how to market the movie, the previews did not show what the movie was and it was actually a good movie. I expect the same with LR

[Bionicfanboy66]

Lone Ranger hasn't had a feature film since 1981 and IIRC the critics hated that one too. Most of them weren't too thrilled with the original SW trilogy, either.