Original Motion Picture Soundtrack....yeah right!

[HardyGirl]

Ok, yes...this is a rant. But maybe some of you feel the same way.

I really can't stand when I really get into the music of a certain movie, and want to buy the sound track. And when I play it at home, the songs sound NOTHING like the ones in the movie. Re-edits, verses missing, intros and endings are different. It's just really disappointing. They need to call the albums, "Re-recorded Motion Picture Soundtrack.

Do any of you feel this way?

BTW...this thread was prompted by my finding the "rare" Crystal Heart movie soundtrack from 1985 on YouTube, and most of the songs aren't anything like the movie versions.

[Mikey]

Reminds me of many years ago when I bought the Revenge of the Nerds soundtrack and it didn't have the "clap your hands everybody" song.

Instead it had a studio version by other people and it didn't even appear in the film

WTH ?

[Hedji]

In the old days, re-recordings were quite common. The Fury, Damien Omen II, Patton, The Great Escape, etc. all were albums of re-arranged material, re-recorded for album presentation. John Williams is notorious for lots of micro-edits, and album re-arrangements. From a record program/producing point of view, it sometimes makes for a more purposeful listening experience instead of lots of little mini cues all played in film order, with redundancies or anomalies preserved warts and all.

Other times there's a money reason. When an orchestra records music for a film, each player is entitled to what is called re-use fees. This means every bassoon player gets a cut of the money from sales of the soundtrack. Sometimes it is actually cheaper to re-record with an orchestra in another country to avoid those fees.

The good news is that in the past 5 years, there has been major efforts from small record labels to produce limited runs of original recordings for fans of film music and niche markets. Film Score Monthly, Lalaland Records, Intrada and others have been breaking the floodgates on fan-demanded recordings and releasing them in small editions. So, if you have a favorite score or film recording, there's always hope that one of these labels will give you what you want. Many holy grails have been released in the last handful of years.

[toys2cool]

i use to hate that crap...

[UnderdogDJLSW]

Intrada has some neat stuff. The ST:TMP disk set they released is a favorite of mine.

[SeattleEd]

Sharry,

That has to do with copyright and licensing.

The soundtrack you speak of must be an import since the movie is made from an Italian production company and only the soundtrack was released overseas. Many of the soundtracks I've collected over the years were imports due to not being allowed to be released domestically. I assume the one you have must have some sort copyright issue so it's easier to remake the soundtrack without having to deal with the royalties to the original artists/musicians.
A quick search came up with a vinyl soundtrack from that time so it may contain the versions you are seeking or your best bet is to get a bootleg of the soundtrack.

The 80's certainly was an era of convoluted copyright issues with soundtrack to movies. The one that comes to mind is Heavy Metal and after all these years, the Soundtrack and score were finally released intact including versions from the movies. Before this it was best to get the import vinyl and rip to digital.

I wish they had released the version of "The Last Race" from Jack Nitzsche that was used in "The Village Of The Giants" but instead a remade version was released as a single back when the movie came out and was subsequently made famous again in Quentin Tarantino's "Death Proof". As a kid I loved the movie version and the only way to get it was the wait until the movie was on DVD, rip it, pull the song out, edit, clean it up and make a song of it.

Here is the song.

[HardyGirl]

A quick search came up with a vinyl soundtrack from that time so it may contain the versions you are seeking or your best bet is to get a bootleg of the soundtrack.

Thanks Ed. But the version I found on YouTube is the recorded soundtrack. Luckily, when I was married, my ex hooked up our stereo to the VCR, so I have most of the songs in their original format w/ minimal talking. And since the downloadable version was nixed, I "old schooled" it, and put my tape player up to the speakers of my PC and recorded rare soundtrack.

Italian import...huh? Interesting.

[mazinz]

Thanks Ed. But the version I found on YouTube is the recorded soundtrack. Luckily, when I was married, my ex hooked up our stereo to the VCR, so I have most of the songs in their original format w/ minimal talking. And since the downloadable version was nixed, I "old schooled" it, and put my tape player up to the speakers of my PC and recorded rare soundtrack.

Italian import...huh? Interesting.

off the discogs site, there are two sellers who have the vinyl for sale and both less than $30.00
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Cryst...elease/2398032

[HardyGirl]

Thanks!

off the discogs site, there are two sellers who have the vinyl for sale and both less than $30.00
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Cryst...elease/2398032

[mazinz]

Thanks!

You're welcome. I usually check some of my places first to see if it is out there but I was turning up nothing, then I found the discogs link and that at least is very reliable place to purchase from

[supes]

The worse one I bought was years ago, it was the soundtrack to Ralph Macchio's Crossroads movie. I bought it specifically for the guitar duel at the end of the movie. Key pivitol part, and itis not on the sound track! Man I was really p*ssed off.

[Gorn Captain]

The thing that annoys me most about soundtracks (and I have a 400+ collection), is that they have an excellent (instrumental) soundtrack (let's say by the great Jerry Goldsmith) in the movie, 75 minutes of absolute bliss.
Then they release the CD, it has 20 minutes of Goldsmith, and 30 minutes of (stupid) pop songs that were heard as background noise in the movie.
In the 70s and 80s, this really made me mad.
These days, you have a much better chance to get the full score (like with Intrada), but they are expensive and quickly OOP.
Luckily, then can put 90 minutes of score on a CD now, in the old days you just got the 20-25 minutes per side of your LP album.

[nvmbrsdoom5]

That's been a pet peeve of mine for YEARS, it's good to see someone mention it! I can tolerate some subtle differences (like a slightly different vocal take, for example, because they actually had the performers sing live during filming to a backing track), but alot of times it's a very different version overall, sometimes with a different arrangement and in a different key! Many times I've wound up making a home-recording from the video source myself to listen to. The version of "I've Just Seen A Face" from the "Across The Universe" film is far superior in the movie compared to the one on the soundtrack cd, for example (in my opinion, anyhow.)

[mazinz]

some score soundtracks now are strictly released as a pay to own ( pay to download- usually mp3). It is a much cheaper way to get an otherwise previously unreleased soundtrack out there. For the two horror type films dark night of the scarecrow and deadbeat at dawn both utilized this method

[SeattleEd]

^^Yes. I've seen this with mostly indie flicks. Major studio releases have been pushing exclusive tracks on available with DL of the entire album so you are forced to but the entire album rather than that one track. Even some of the older soundtracks can only be purchased with buying the entire album.
That's why I've been using Spotify to listen to the tracks to see if they are worth getting. Otherwise I just add it to my playlist and no worries.

As Sharry has demonstrated, best to just rip from the movie audio track itself. Been doing this more and more and with some editing and cleaning it comes out great. Even making custom ringtones.