Some states still allow spanking in school ?

[Mikey]

Here's a thought for you:

Most corporal punishment levied in schools has to have a witness. You cannot spank a kid without there being an adult witness (and in some cases two) present to prevent abuse. And generally, the punishment is delivered calmly and fairly evenly across the board (because the adult is not angry...they are doing their "job" so to speak). As a substitute teacher, I've been a witness to several cases of corporal punishment delivered by a teacher. I have never seen a teacher spank a child in a way that would even be considered abuse. And...parents have to give their consent in order for a child to receive corporal punishment.

In the home however, what you will find is many more cases of abuse because parents tend to spank kids when they are angry and they can take it a bit too far. There is also usually not another person to witness it. So it can get out of hand very easily since there is no or little accountability.

True, but in my opinion teachers have no business hitting students unless it's in self defense.

Just my opinion

[Zemo]

IMO spanking works somewhat on young kids, but as Mike said, as an older kid, I take a paddelin before being grounded any day.

[jimsmegos]

We had one teacher who would literally take a running start at you. Then we had the shop teacher who was brutal. He would hit you so hard and so fast you didn't even know it hurt until 30 seconds later when you walked back in to class. I had one teacher who throughout my entire Jr. High and High School experience, roll up a news paper and slap me upside the head with it if she heard I had done something stupid. I don't begrudge any of them and I don't think any of my classmates did either.

However

That was then. It was a different society with a different moral compass. And while I don't have a problem with spanking in the home I don't think today's classroom is of the same mentality. Society's changed. The rules and responsibility of the classroom have changed for both the students and the teachers. And honestly I wouldn't trust either one when put in the situation these days. I don't think kids these days see it as "well, I had that one coming" and I'm not so sure that a teacher would still see it as "a part of the job".

The bottom line IMO is violence begets violence.

[4NDR01D]

Strange, I always thought that I received "The Strap" in the last year before it was abolished, but I found this "The Toronto Board of Education pioneered the abolition of corporal punishment in 1971. In most other Canadian jurisdictions, the strap continued to be an important instrument in the teacher’s disciplinary arsenal until the 1990s. It was not until 2004 that the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that corporal punishment was an unreasonable application of force in the maintenance of classroom discipline".

[spacecaps]

It's not the "spanking" itself that is intended to be the punishment, it's the fear of getting spanked or being singled out from the group that makes this effective. The schools have taken almost all the power to discipline a student away from the teacher out side of a detention (which is just as much punishment for the teacher as it is for the student.) Most schools today have time out rooms and a vice principal to take care of anything that goes beyond mildly disrupting the class.

[Rallygirl]

I was spanked as a child, and spanked often at that. Time outs, groundings, etc had absolutely no effect on me, in fact, they made me all that much more determined to try whatever activity got me punishment again. However, when the "happiness paddle" came out, I knew that I had best not do whatever I had done ever again,..ever! Woe be to the kid who pushed dad beyond the "happiness paddle" to the belt. Looking back as an adult, I am thankful that my parents spanked me instead of using wimpy "punishments".

I have a friend who, like many parents, spanks in the home, but was unsure how to handle her kids when they misbehaved out in public. Instead of spankings in public, she has them drop to the floor and do push ups,...and I am talking in the middle of the store. Her kids are well behaved and in good physical shape.

I'm all for spanking. It's been proven to work, and I truly believe the behavior of kids today is a result of a lack of this punishment. Time outs and taking things away don't really work. Kids become accustomed to them or flat out ignore them. Spanking is painful, immediate, and is remembered as a negative consequence of misbehaving. As long as it's not abused, it's a very effective punishment.

[megojim]

I'm really surprised by the responses on this. It was a better day when kids feared their teachers/elders and i mean that from a point of respect, not literal fear.

[cjefferys]

Strange, I always thought that I received "The Strap" in the last year before it was abolished, but I found this "The Toronto Board of Education pioneered the abolition of corporal punishment in 1971. In most other Canadian jurisdictions, the strap continued to be an important instrument in the teacher’s disciplinary arsenal until the 1990s. It was not until 2004 that the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that corporal punishment was an unreasonable application of force in the maintenance of classroom discipline".

Oh yeah, "The Strap" was a big deal when I went to school in the 70's and 80's. I never got it because I was a good boy, but I knew kids that did. Interesting, I didn't know that it lasted in Canada for as long as it did.

[cjefferys]

I'm really surprised by the responses on this. It was a better day when kids feared their teachers/elders and i mean that from a point of respect, not literal fear.

I hear you on that one.

[Figuremod73]

I've seen so many kids laugh when their getting a paddling that I no longer think it works.

I was never real bad but I remember feeling they were more of a discomfort than frightening.

[fallensaviour]

Oh yeah, "The Strap" was a big deal when I went to school in the 70's and 80's. I never got it because I was a good boy, but I knew kids that did. Interesting, I didn't know that it lasted in Canada for as long as it did.

Funny...I was raised in British Columbia started Kindy garden in 76-77 and graduated in 1990.In an out of principals office many times for fighting and never once did I ever see a strap,metre stick,belt or ruler ever used on any kid.I went to four diffirent schools.I also had three younger siblings and no-one ever saw "the strap".
Perhaps it was just an eastern thing?
My dad told me they stopped using it in the late 60's early 70's.

[fallensaviour]

Okay this makes sense for me;
School Corporal Punishment Bans in Canadian Provinces

Every province except Alberta and Manitoba had banned corporal punishment in public schools before the above-mentioned 2004 ban, though British Columbia and Manitoba were the only provinces to ban it in both public and private schools. They are, in chronological order by year of provincial ban:[citation needed]
British Columbia - 1973
Nova Scotia - 1989
New Brunswick - 1990
Yukon - 1990
Prince Edward Island - 1993
Northwest Territories - 1995
Nunavut - 1995
Newfoundland and Labrador - 1997
Quebec - 1997
Saskatchewan - 2005
Ontario - 2009

[Werewolf]

I read tonight on comcast's news front page a Texas school is expanding its corporal punishment to allow male teachers to spank teen girls. That's just adding whole other level of creepiness to all already deeply disturbing rule.

[J.B.]

I spent my 4th and 5th grade at the Southern California Military Academy. One day Terry Goldman and I got into a fight over who was going to be Squad Leader. Our teacher gave us the choice of either 15 Demerits (the most you can get for an offense) or a paddling as punishment. I had never gotten in trouble before at S.C.M.A. and was ready to choose the Demerits. Next thing I know, Terry comes over and tells me, "Hey, I get in trouble all the time. Pick the paddling; it's done by the lady at the Chapel and she gives love taps". I took Terry's advice and opted for the paddling. Well, it just so happened that the Chapel lady called in sick that day and Colonel Aden took over her duties. That bast*rd had drilled holes in his paddle to make it more aerodynamic. He gave us some short speech about how this hurt him more than the Cadet..and then he brought the pain. Should have just taken the damn Demerits.