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  • grayhank
    That Fisher Price Guy
    • Feb 9, 2007
    • 1134

    #46
    Who's to say Jack's father can't speak German? He's clearly well educated, a surgeon and well traveled. Also seems to have lots of ties to the island whether it be by association through the Dharma group or Ben's group. Perhaps he is one of the founder's of the organization. He appears to have substantial finances as well. There's so much mystery surrounding Jack's dad almost as much as the Island itself.

    It appears that Siad had to align himself with Ben, almost like Ben is holding him in place somehow. Ben is obviously the man Siad is working for as an assassin. Ben tell's him he has another name on the list for Siad to take care of.

    The Eye Patch guy is probably off with the rest of the others would be my guess.
    Last edited by grayhank; Feb 15, '08, 3:16 PM.
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    • Donkey Hoatie
      Supporter of Silliness
      • Jun 20, 2007
      • 783

      #47
      Ben and Sayid

      All this discussion of the Oceanic 6 has been great this season. I agree that Claire and Aaron will round out the final 6. So, I think the 6 are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Claire, and Aaron. I don't think Claire is the one in the coffin, I think it's Aaron. The coffin looked pretty small in last season's finale. I haven't looked at it enough to say whether or not a fully grown adult could be in there.

      As for Ben not being so bad, I wholeheartedly disagree. I believe that while the world knows about the Oceanic 6, they believe everyone else is dead. I don't think that the writers will be willing to write off all the other survivors so easily. I imagine that they're all still living back on the island, and they're living there because they want to. Now, it's obvious that the Oceanic 6 are all wealthy due to the settlement. If everyone else stays on the island because they want to, the Oceanic 6 have no reason to let on that there are more survivors. Grim as this may sound, I'm sure Oceanic Airlines put together a pool of money for the survivors. If the Oceanic 6 reveals that there are more survivors still out there, suddenly they have to split that pool with more and more people.

      Ben is clearly blackmailing Sayid to do his killing, finishing off all others who wish to do him harm. Sayid will do it, because if he doesn't, Ben will kill all the other survivors on the island.

      Just some rambling thoughts as I try to make sense of these first three episodes.

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      • grayhank
        That Fisher Price Guy
        • Feb 9, 2007
        • 1134

        #48
        Aaron was not technically a person on the flight manifest, so don't think he would count as one of the survivor's. The coffin was smaller perhaps because Clair isn't all that tall and could easily be the one inside. Something happens to Aaron and she commits suicide or perhaps the drugs she was given on the island had some effect on her. She does seem to get sick often on the show. She was enroute to give her unborn baby up for adoption. Perhaps she couldn't live with that decision.
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        • grayhank
          That Fisher Price Guy
          • Feb 9, 2007
          • 1134

          #49
          And speaking of Clair, isn't there some kind of regulation that pregnant women aren't allowed to fly after so many months along or is this just a health risk kind of thing? I don't know for sure since I am neither married nor have kids. I'm sure some of you have wives and/or kids...what's the deal on that? Just curious.
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          • Adam West
            Museum CPA
            • Apr 14, 2003
            • 6822

            #50
            There isn't an airline rule against it, it isn't recommended after so many months because of potential health risks.
            "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
            ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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            • Mawni
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 11, 2007
              • 338

              #51
              If claire is in the coffin why would Kate have been so snarky when Jack asked her if she was going to the funeral? I think it was either Michael or Ben.

              Would Christian really be wandering around the island for 100 days wearing a suit?

              I think that part of the reason the 6 are not talking is so they can protect the other survivors on the island, plus it is a condition of their settlement.

              I think Sayid is working with Ben b/c Ben has convinced him that taking out Dharma people will protect the people left on the island.

              Could Patchy really survive a close range blast from a shrapnel grenade (even underwater)? I guess stranger things have happened!

              What do you guys think?
              Last edited by Mawni; Feb 15, '08, 5:15 PM. Reason: adding stuff

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              • Donkey Hoatie
                Supporter of Silliness
                • Jun 20, 2007
                • 783

                #52
                Originally posted by grayhank
                Aaron was not technically a person on the flight manifest, so don't think he would count as one of the survivor's.
                Even though he's not on the manifest, he clearly was on the plane and, therefore, a survivor. Whether or not the writers see it that way or if they view Claire/Aaron as just one of the Oceanic 6 will remain to be seen. I'd count them as two, but that's just my opinion. In any case, I can't wait to see what's up next.

                BTW, I thought last season's final 3-4 episodes were some of the best television I'd ever seen. Seriously, does it get much better than the episode with Charlie's Greatest Hits? Even though you knew it was coming, you still held out hope that Desmond was wrong. Completely gutwrenching. I almost gave up on the show about midway through last season as it seemed the story was just spinning in place. Boy am I glad I stuck with it!

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                • grayhank
                  That Fisher Price Guy
                  • Feb 9, 2007
                  • 1134

                  #53
                  LOL, I did use the term "technically". Reminds me of the time a pregnant woman got pulled over for using the carpool lane and said she had every right because there were technically "two" people in the car. But I guess those things only happen here in CA.

                  And just for the record, Aaron is more of a background prop character anyway...I don't think people are tuning into Lost every week wondering what baby Aaron is gonna do next. Seems like a wasted use of the term "Oceanic Six". Clair is pretty much a useless character on the show to begin with. All she ever does is get put in harm's way, get sick and utter the phrase "Oh my baby!". Would be the perfect time to write her out, especially since Charlie is gone. The show has had more interesting characters than Clair be written off.

                  There really hasn't been much interaction between Kate and Clair. I don't think they've ever even said anything to each other on the show. Why would Kate care about Claire's funeral? They are just two people who happen to be on the same beach for the most part. Just like the other 36 or so passengers in the background that are left. Does she care about any of the them? Kate has always been portrayed as a very "rogue" character in who she aligns herself with. She doesn't seem the type to attend someone's funeral with whom she isn't that well connected.
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                  • Mawni
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 11, 2007
                    • 338

                    #54
                    Good Point about Kate and Claire. I'm still skeptical.

                    It's fun to hypothesize though!

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                    • brannon86
                      Museum Super Collector
                      • Jul 20, 2007
                      • 244

                      #55
                      Lost

                      I really never got into it....

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                      • starsky
                        veteran member
                        • Aug 26, 2007
                        • 6207

                        #56
                        you dont know what you're missing!!

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                        • Adam West
                          Museum CPA
                          • Apr 14, 2003
                          • 6822

                          #57
                          So after last night's episode is Aaron part of the Oceanic 6?

                          They try to end every episode with a surprise but I knew right from the get go where they were going with the episode so the "surprise" ending wasn't a surprise to me.

                          I'm still trying to figure out who these "rescuers" are and why one of them demanded extortion money from Ben.

                          Based on the last few episodes, it appears that there is a group of people back in the U.S. who are trying to keep the Dharma initiative a big secret by following the Oceanic 6 around. Ben must have something to do with their ultimate rescue because he seems to still be in charge even after they are back to their normal lives.

                          It's interesting to see how this story is going to unfold.

                          It was hilarious to see the Dharma Initiative labeled box of Red Wine. I wonder if they'll come out with Dharma Initiative merchandise. I already want one of those coffee mugs.
                          "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
                          ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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                          • PCofmisfittoys
                            Banned
                            • Oct 17, 2007
                            • 0

                            #58
                            Originally posted by dogman67
                            I really never got into it....

                            me either , they can only do so much with it. it's like Prison break to me...weeeeee another stupid plot line

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                            • starsky
                              veteran member
                              • Aug 26, 2007
                              • 6207

                              #59
                              in true "lost" fashion, they definitely axed jin i guess because of his run in with the law....

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                              • The Toyroom
                                The Packaging King
                                • Dec 31, 2004
                                • 16653

                                #60
                                ^ I'm sure there's more to Jin's apparent death than behind the scenes politics....the question is "Is he the final member of the Oceanic Six"?
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