LOST is back tomorrow. Who in?

[Mawni]

Good Point about Kate and Claire. I'm still skeptical.

It's fun to hypothesize though!

[grayhank]

LOL, I did use the term "technically". Reminds me of the time a pregnant woman got pulled over for using the carpool lane and said she had every right because there were technically "two" people in the car. But I guess those things only happen here in CA.

And just for the record, Aaron is more of a background prop character anyway...I don't think people are tuning into Lost every week wondering what baby Aaron is gonna do next. Seems like a wasted use of the term "Oceanic Six". Clair is pretty much a useless character on the show to begin with. All she ever does is get put in harm's way, get sick and utter the phrase "Oh my baby!". Would be the perfect time to write her out, especially since Charlie is gone. The show has had more interesting characters than Clair be written off.

There really hasn't been much interaction between Kate and Clair. I don't think they've ever even said anything to each other on the show. Why would Kate care about Claire's funeral? They are just two people who happen to be on the same beach for the most part. Just like the other 36 or so passengers in the background that are left. Does she care about any of the them? Kate has always been portrayed as a very "rogue" character in who she aligns herself with. She doesn't seem the type to attend someone's funeral with whom she isn't that well connected.

[Donkey Hoatie]

Aaron was not technically a person on the flight manifest, so don't think he would count as one of the survivor's.

Even though he's not on the manifest, he clearly was on the plane and, therefore, a survivor. Whether or not the writers see it that way or if they view Claire/Aaron as just one of the Oceanic 6 will remain to be seen. I'd count them as two, but that's just my opinion. In any case, I can't wait to see what's up next.

BTW, I thought last season's final 3-4 episodes were some of the best television I'd ever seen. Seriously, does it get much better than the episode with Charlie's Greatest Hits? Even though you knew it was coming, you still held out hope that Desmond was wrong. Completely gutwrenching. I almost gave up on the show about midway through last season as it seemed the story was just spinning in place. Boy am I glad I stuck with it!

[Mawni]

If claire is in the coffin why would Kate have been so snarky when Jack asked her if she was going to the funeral? I think it was either Michael or Ben.

Would Christian really be wandering around the island for 100 days wearing a suit?

I think that part of the reason the 6 are not talking is so they can protect the other survivors on the island, plus it is a condition of their settlement.

I think Sayid is working with Ben b/c Ben has convinced him that taking out Dharma people will protect the people left on the island.

Could Patchy really survive a close range blast from a shrapnel grenade (even underwater)? I guess stranger things have happened!

What do you guys think?

[Adam West]

There isn't an airline rule against it, it isn't recommended after so many months because of potential health risks.

[grayhank]

And speaking of Clair, isn't there some kind of regulation that pregnant women aren't allowed to fly after so many months along or is this just a health risk kind of thing? I don't know for sure since I am neither married nor have kids. I'm sure some of you have wives and/or kids...what's the deal on that? Just curious.

[grayhank]

Aaron was not technically a person on the flight manifest, so don't think he would count as one of the survivor's. The coffin was smaller perhaps because Clair isn't all that tall and could easily be the one inside. Something happens to Aaron and she commits suicide or perhaps the drugs she was given on the island had some effect on her. She does seem to get sick often on the show. She was enroute to give her unborn baby up for adoption. Perhaps she couldn't live with that decision.

[Donkey Hoatie]

Ben and Sayid

All this discussion of the Oceanic 6 has been great this season. I agree that Claire and Aaron will round out the final 6. So, I think the 6 are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Claire, and Aaron. I don't think Claire is the one in the coffin, I think it's Aaron. The coffin looked pretty small in last season's finale. I haven't looked at it enough to say whether or not a fully grown adult could be in there.

As for Ben not being so bad, I wholeheartedly disagree. I believe that while the world knows about the Oceanic 6, they believe everyone else is dead. I don't think that the writers will be willing to write off all the other survivors so easily. I imagine that they're all still living back on the island, and they're living there because they want to. Now, it's obvious that the Oceanic 6 are all wealthy due to the settlement. If everyone else stays on the island because they want to, the Oceanic 6 have no reason to let on that there are more survivors. Grim as this may sound, I'm sure Oceanic Airlines put together a pool of money for the survivors. If the Oceanic 6 reveals that there are more survivors still out there, suddenly they have to split that pool with more and more people.

Ben is clearly blackmailing Sayid to do his killing, finishing off all others who wish to do him harm. Sayid will do it, because if he doesn't, Ben will kill all the other survivors on the island.

Just some rambling thoughts as I try to make sense of these first three episodes.

[grayhank]

Who's to say Jack's father can't speak German? He's clearly well educated, a surgeon and well traveled. Also seems to have lots of ties to the island whether it be by association through the Dharma group or Ben's group. Perhaps he is one of the founder's of the organization. He appears to have substantial finances as well. There's so much mystery surrounding Jack's dad almost as much as the Island itself.

It appears that Siad had to align himself with Ben, almost like Ben is holding him in place somehow. Ben is obviously the man Siad is working for as an assassin. Ben tell's him he has another name on the list for Siad to take care of.

The Eye Patch guy is probably off with the rest of the others would be my guess.

[Adam West]

Interesting theories.

I wonder whatever happened to the guy with the patch over his eye...the one who had the underwater explosive that caused Charlie to drown.

I don't think Jack's father was the employer of the woman Siad killed but an interesting theory. She appeared to be speaking German to him on the phone.

What I'm trying to figure out right now is why Siad went to Ben for help at the end of the episode. Is he not really so bad after all?

Who are the people following the Oceanic 6 around in the flashforward sequences and why are they attempting to kill them? To keep some secret about the island a permanant secret?

The entire wreckage of the plane was found unless it was just staged as some type of cover up as the helicopter pilot suggested by saying that the corpse of the pilot was not him because his wedding band was missing.

It's a very clever show....everytime I think I have something figured out, something else happens that adds a twist and turn everywhere.

Still by far the best show on tv right now in my opinion.

[grayhank]

Oh Yeah, excellent episode. One of the best in a long time. I think last night's episode indirectly answered a lot of questions or at least theories.

Ben has in fact left the island on numerous occasions as evidenced by all his passports.

Michael is Ben's inside "man" on the freighter and the male voice on the phone. Which explains why his name appears in the opening credits.

The "rescue team" failed in their mission to get Ben as evidenced by the excellent cliffhanger with Siad.

The "rescue team" are the offspring of the original "Dharma" group and they are there to seak revenge on Ben. There were other children on the island when Ben was first brought there as a child. They more than likely knew about the Island, left when they got older, and know about how he ambushed the original scientists. That's why they brought the gas masks.

Clair should be one of the "Oceanic 6" due to Desmond's vision telling Charlie he needs to die so she can be rescued (via helicopter). It is strange that his visions have stopped however. I think she was probably the one in the coffin at the end of Season 3. Jack goes to her funeral because he discovers that she is his half-sister.

Jack's father is the 6th Oceanic Six survivor. He was only presumed dead but his name would have been on the flight's manifest. Jack also makes the statement at the end of Season 3 while talking to the hospital director to the effect of "get my father down here, and see if he's drunker than I am". I'm also thinking he's the "employer" of the woman Siad killed. Jack's father faked his own death using the "spider" venum which mimmicks death - as portrayed by Nicki and Paulo. The symptoms wore off after the plane crash, explaining why Jack believed he saw him on the island and heard him talking on the intercom while he was locked up in the aquarium by the others.

Those are my speculations at least.

[starsky]

anbody check out lost tonight?

[The Toyroom]

Was it just my imagination or is the guy who first parachuted in (the seemingly naiive Physicist) the actor that played Doogie Houser with his hair colored?

Doogie Houser was played by Neil Patrick Harris and he's on a CBS sitcom "How I Met Your Mother". Not the same guy...

I am also getting annoyed by the haunted shack or whatever it is. I'm sure it will become more clear in future episodes but just seems corny right now.

I didn't catch it but in last week's episode when Hurley peeks into the haunted shack, supposedly it was Jack's father Christian he saw in the rocking chair before someone (Locke?) spooked him at the window.

[Adam West]

Was it just my imagination or is the guy who first parachuted in (the seemingly naiive Physicist) the actor that played Doogie Houser with his hair colored?

I love the show. I always like the twists and turns and even my 13 year old son is hooked (the one night he is allowed to stay up until 10 pm on school nights).

My big annoyance is Ben. I realize they are trying to portray him as a completely manipulative genius but I was really at the point last night where Locke should have just pulled the trigger and be done with it. I don't know how many times during the past two seasons, he has come close to being executed only to say "I know something that is very important to your survival." He has evaded the issue long enough. At some point I would think one of the characters would say "I really don't care anymore" and just pull the trigger.

The only thing I found interesting about him anymore is I am starting to question whether or not his whole story about growing up on the island is true and if the picture that the new others had was a picture of him off the island, on the island, I don't know. Was it the computer that he was punching the code into...it was really unclear.

I am also getting annoyed by the haunted shack or whatever it is. I'm sure it will become more clear in future episodes but just seems corny right now.

[dumbldor]

I am starting to think that Dharma is some secret ancient society like the Masons.