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  • Apositive
    Career Member
    • Apr 3, 2011
    • 609

    No studio confidence in new TMNT

    Basically another studio shows no confidence in another old franchise. Is it the economy or just a lame fanchise that today's audiences won't like?

    Paramount Shuts Down 'Ninja Turtles' Reboot; Release Date Pushed (Exclusive) - Yahoo! Movies


    I like the TMNT comics back in the day, a clever Frank Miller parody..but I was shocked they became a phenomenon in marketing....
  • Earth 2 Chris
    Verbose Member
    • Mar 7, 2004
    • 32966

    #2
    Isn't TMNT returning as a TV series as well?

    I'm beginning to think Paramount is in financial doo-doo. TMNT has just as much chance for a revival as any other formerly hot franchise. The Smurfs and the Muppets have been out of the lime-light longer and both did very well. Look at Alvin and the Chipmunks!

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    • Brazoo
      Permanent Member
      • Feb 14, 2009
      • 4767

      #3
      I think Paramount has been doing very well for the last few years - and I think they're doing something smart if they're holding projects up because the scripts stink. There's been a bunch of super-budget flops this year because release dates were more important than the scripts, if they're really stepping back and thinking about that, I think this will be a very good trend for them to start.

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      • Earth 2 Chris
        Verbose Member
        • Mar 7, 2004
        • 32966

        #4
        Okay, I need to think before I post. Paramount released Avengers...so I think they're movie division is doing fine.

        And good point. Maybe the script stinks. Some odd movies have been making it out in a bid to take up space on the schedule (Battleship?).

        BUT, I think a GOOD TMNT movie could do well, based on other 80s properties that have been "gone" for awhile returning to good box office, like the ones I mentioned above.

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        • Apositive
          Career Member
          • Apr 3, 2011
          • 609

          #5
          True.....re-tooling an unsound script is probably the best decision to make....

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          • Brazoo
            Permanent Member
            • Feb 14, 2009
            • 4767

            #6
            Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
            Okay, I need to think before I post. Paramount released Avengers...so I think they're movie division is doing fine.

            And good point. Maybe the script stinks. Some odd movies have been making it out in a bid to take up space on the schedule (Battleship?).

            BUT, I think a GOOD TMNT movie could do well, based on other 80s properties that have been "gone" for awhile returning to good box office, like the ones I mentioned above.

            Chris
            As far as I know Marvel/Disney/Viacom produced/distributed "The Avengers" and Paramount was like a silent partner type-deal. I'm reading they made a chunk of change off it either way. Did it have a Paramount logo at the front with the other logos? I haven't seen it yet.

            I agree with you totally, but the article just says they're pushing it back a year. I guess that could mean they're thinking about not doing it too. Who knows. Maybe they also want wait a bit for the new show to grow public interest too. In any case, I'm just hating how movies get green lit and rushed out in less than a year to make a particular summer weekend release date. it's refreshing to hear that a studio is holding back a project to iron out the script, even if it's just a cover of some kind.
            Last edited by Brazoo; Jun 15, '12, 4:48 PM.

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            • kingdom warrior
              OH JES!!
              • Jul 21, 2005
              • 12478

              #7
              Honestly I'd like to see a movie with a harder version of the Turtles like they first were in the early books....not the later cowabunga crapola.......

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              • Brazoo
                Permanent Member
                • Feb 14, 2009
                • 4767

                #8
                It's weird - I've never read the original comics - I probably should.

                The neighbor kids I would babysit LOVED the cartoon - so I'd watch with them and I kinda got a kick out of it too - but I think TMNT got lost in the age gap for me maybe. I was maybe too young for the original comic and too old for the cartoons.

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                • cjefferys
                  Duke of Gloat
                  • Apr 23, 2006
                  • 10180

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brazoo
                  As far as I know Marvel/Disney/Viacom produced/distributed "The Avengers" and Paramount was like a silent partner type-deal. I'm reading they made a chunk of change off it either way. Did it have a Paramount logo at the front with the other logos? I haven't seen it yet.
                  Viacom is the parent company of Paramount, and yes, they are definitely getting a chunk of the Avengers' money. The Parmount logo did appear after Marvel's logo at the beginning of Avengers.

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                  • kingdom warrior
                    OH JES!!
                    • Jul 21, 2005
                    • 12478

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brazoo
                    It's weird - I've never read the original comics - I probably should.

                    The neighbor kids I would babysit LOVED the cartoon - so I'd watch with them and I kinda got a kick out of it too - but I think TMNT got lost in the age gap for me maybe. I was maybe too young for the original comic and too old for the cartoons.
                    Really??? those are the best, I liked them for what they were it was raw and a bit unpolished but the idea was great.....

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                    • Brazoo
                      Permanent Member
                      • Feb 14, 2009
                      • 4767

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cjefferys
                      Viacom is the parent company of Paramount, and yes, they are definitely getting a chunk of the Avengers' money. The Parmount logo did appear after Marvel's logo at the beginning of Avengers.
                      Yeah, here's the article I saw before. Looking at it again it actually doesn't make sense to me - a distributer wouldn't necessarily put up money for production, so why is this strange here? It's probably just a sloppy article trying to make a story of something that's not really a story.

                      http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8460AK20120507

                      "Walt Disney's blockbuster "The Avengers" has five superheroes and record ticket sales. It also has a silent partner in Viacom's Paramount Pictures, which stands to get a healthy payday even though the studio didn't spend a cent to produce or market the film."

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                      • Brazoo
                        Permanent Member
                        • Feb 14, 2009
                        • 4767

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kingdom warrior
                        Really??? those are the best, I liked them for what they were it was raw and a bit unpolished but the idea was great.....
                        I was like, 11/12ish when the comic was big I think. Maybe other kids my age were reading it at that time, but I was probably more comfortable with really polished looking Marvel stuff and also maybe too sucked into the Marvel story lines to spend money on other unrelated comics.

                        I think I was like 15/16 when the cartoon came out - and not interested in comics cartoons anymore. I thought the show was fun - I just wouldn't have watched it without the excuse of watching with little kids. NOW I might!

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                        • BlackKnight
                          The DarkSide Customizer
                          • Apr 16, 2005
                          • 14622

                          #13
                          The 1st Film wasn't too bad ....
                          The Cartoon Movie of a few years ago was decent ...
                          outside of those..., I can't watch this stuff.
                          ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


                          always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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                          • Zemo
                            Still Smokin'
                            • Feb 14, 2006
                            • 3888

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BlackKnight
                            The 1st Film wasn't too bad ....
                            The Cartoon Movie of a few years ago was decent ...
                            outside of those..., I can't watch this stuff.
                            Yea, remaking this will be a huge waste of money. Big flop. They need to stop with all this carp and some writers with an imagination. Same carp again and again.

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                            • cjefferys
                              Duke of Gloat
                              • Apr 23, 2006
                              • 10180

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Brazoo
                              Yeah, here's the article I saw before. Looking at it again it actually doesn't make sense to me - a distributer wouldn't necessarily put up money for production, so why is this strange here? It's probably just a sloppy article trying to make a story of something that's not really a story.

                              http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8460AK20120507

                              "Walt Disney's blockbuster "The Avengers" has five superheroes and record ticket sales. It also has a silent partner in Viacom's Paramount Pictures, which stands to get a healthy payday even though the studio didn't spend a cent to produce or market the film."

                              These days it is common for two studios to share the risk of financing a film, and they make a deal. For example, one studio will get the money from and is responsible for domestic box office distribution and the other studio the foreign BO. Or they figure out who gets what from theatrical, home video, cable, etc (domestic and foreign). I don't know what kind of deal Disney and Viacom worked out though. I'm guessing that it's possible that since Paramount already had a pre-existing deal regarding the Iron Man franchise (and Robert Downey Jr?) that they were in a position to work out a deal with Disney once Disney took control of Marvel.
                              Last edited by cjefferys; Jun 15, '12, 9:54 PM.

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