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  • spacecaps
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    Originally posted by sprytel
    Yep, that is my take as well. Banner was under Loki's influence at that point. Then the fall to earth snapped him out of it... just like when Hawkeye got a blow to the head.
    Sigh..I guess that's the best explanation. I actually thought about that scenario myself but after thinking it over for a few days it really bothers me. The movie should have done something to address it directly without having anyone guess since it was a major plot point in the first half of the film and then completely dismissed for the second half. There's so much misdirection in moves these day it amazes me that no one involved with the script of this movie stood up and said, " Um guys..we should probably address this inconsistent Hulk thing in our movie." Just a throw away line like how they explained how Hawkeye came out of Loki's trance would have been better than nothing at all. It really shouldn't take a fan of the movie to post a question online to figure out a crucial story line within a movie a that has been in the works for five years.

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  • emeraldknight47
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    Originally posted by megoknight
    I have no idea what that means.
    Ditto here. I don't see anything "exploitative" about THE AVENGERS at all. "Explosive", yes, but exploitative, no.....!

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  • nobody
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    Originally posted by Funkyterrance
    I dunno, just seems a little like exploitation to me.
    I have no idea what that means.

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  • sprytel
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    Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
    My wife mentioned the Hulk thing. I chalked it up to Banner and all the heroes being influenced by Loki's staff right before his 1st transformation. The paranoia didn't wear off on the simple-minded Hulk.
    Yep, that is my take as well. Banner was under Loki's influence at that point. Then the fall to earth snapped him out of it... just like when Hawkeye got a blow to the head.

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  • Funkyterrance
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    I dunno, just seems a little like exploitation to me.

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  • boss
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    Saw it last night with the family. I thought the plot was pretty weak (and didn't make a lot of sense), but everytime the Avengers Assembled the movie was beyond good. The good far outweighed the bad.

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  • Earth 2 Chris
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    The Hulk thing really bugs me and I know the other two things are extremely minor but I did notice them.
    My wife mentioned the Hulk thing. I chalked it up to Banner and all the heroes being influenced by Loki's staff right before his 1st transformation. The paranoia didn't wear off on the simple-minded Hulk.

    OR, like in the comics, Hulk responds to the biggest threat. Since the attacking aliens were the bigger threat at the end, he aimed himself at them.

    Chris

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  • garagesale
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    Avengers gave me a lump-in-the-throat/teary about 5 or 6 times. Last movie(s) to do that to me was LOTR. Been waiting for this a loooooooooong time for something this good.

    JamesD

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  • spacecaps
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    Just got back from seeing the movie and for a Thursday night, the theater was packed. Some idiot sitting right behind me brought a screaming infant and it took him 45 minutes to get up and leave. Ah well, the movie was really good. Iron Man is by far still my favorite. Hulk is one of my all time least favorite super-heroes but Mark Ruffalo was awesome as Bruce Banner and that scene where Hulk and Thor fight a bunch of bad guys and stop to rest and Hulk just side punches him may have been my favorite part of the film. I loved the digs Stark got in on all the others (calling Hawkeye Legolas was awesome!) Someone asked me during the week who Thanos was so I kind of figured that was the mystery guy at the end. Also there's a rumor that Agent Coulson comes back in the second movie as Vision which would be really cool.

    A few things I didn't get was the fear of the Hulk in the first half of the movie. Everyone was terrified of Banner turning into him and when he does he tries to kill Black Widow but when he show's up at the end and says he's angry all the time, he turns into the Hulk at will. If he could do that all along, why the dog and pony show with Tony Stark about learning how to control it and why go after Black Widow in the 1st transformation. The fall from the airship didn't all of a sudden teach him how to do it and it was implied he knew how to do it all the time yet when the security guard finds him, Banner asks if anyone was hurt and he's told that he was conscience the whole time even though Banner doesn't remember what happened. I also thought it was a little silly at the end when all the Super Heroes are fighting with their superpowers and there's Black Widow shooting aliens with a couple of pistols and I rolled my eyes with how they got Hawkeye to come out of Loki's trance when Black Widow explains she "hit him on the head" That's like out of a Gilligan's Island script where a coconut falls on a characters head and he gets amnesia and later another falls on him and he's back to normal. The Hulk thing really bugs me and I know the other two things are extremely minor but I did notice them. Overall I thought the movie was great and it's cool to know there will be more. They really are well done and the Avengers actually did something I didn't think was possible...It made me hope for a Hulk movie with Mark Ruffalo in the lead.

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  • megocrazy
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    First movie to do 200 million in the first weekend. Beat Harry Potter by almost 40 million. It's cleared 641 million already worldwide. Disney must be flipping out. There may be an Avengers 12 if the money stays this good.

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  • johnmiic
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    I love it. This is what the Fantastic Four films should have been. Tho it's an action film the plot doesn't ever seem to slow down that much even when there are scene of the characters just talking. It's like every moment is important. I couldn't even find a lull to go to the bathroom.

    This is like X2 or X-Men: First Class with much more action/much more dire consequences. It's like the way Bryan Spinger described juggling many mutants; it's like a chess game with all the pieces in play. This film is outstanding.

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  • Duncan
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    Saw it today: great movie. I'd probably go A-. Good acting, writing, effects, etc.; no major criticisms. Also, I saw it on the cheap, since I caught a matinee in central Ohio at an indy theater. $4.50 for the ticket, plus $5 for small popcorn, small drink & large Twizzlers . And, I took 2 hours off of work to see it, so I felt like I was getting away with something.
    Last edited by Duncan; May 4, '12, 8:40 PM.

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  • bizzaro megomauler
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    oooh Luey, thats a spoiler...

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  • luey
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    Which one? Thanos or all them eating together?

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  • bizzaro megomauler
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    It could have used another hour.

    I am very interested to see everyone's reaction to the Bonus scene....

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