Shooting at my local high school this morning

[enyawd72]

I don't think anybody can paint an entire generation of kids based on the actions of a few. What about the millions of kids who went to school today to learn, who were respectful to their teachers and parents? where's the praise for all the kids who are more socially/environmentally conscious than any generation before them.

Kids don't decide to just go shoot up their school just because they watch a few episodes of Jersey Shore either.

Of course not all kids are bad, but I honestly see more bad kids than good these days. Why just this weekend, I was going into Dairy Mart and an older guy and a teenager were coming out. I held the door open for them both...the older guy said thank you, but the kid walked right into me because he was too busy playing with his i-pod. He then gives ME a dirty look...I said "You're welcome!" His reply? "Eff you old man."

Nice, huh?

[Den82]

Thing is Chris, I'm not so sure these kids ARE disturbed...I think they just have no morals whatsoever. Society has unfortunately raised a generation of kids that are nothing but self-important, narcissistic little monsters. They have been taught that THEY are important, what THEY want is what matters, that THEIR feelings and desires should be coddled and catered to, to the extent that everyone else around them is unimportant. Other people just don't matter.

Maybe this best describes the ones who constantly make other kids feel small, over petty crap and push them to go crazy.

Growing up, I remember there was one kid who's house caught fire and his new puppy burned to death. I remember other kids laughing hysterically about this and mocking him when they heard he cried for the puppy as he watched the house burn.

I remember kids being treated like dirt because they had "poor people" shoes or because their parents rented instead of owning a home.

You know what? I wish somebody shot those kids.

The fact is society creates these divisions of good, evil, right, wrong, pretty, ugly, desirable, undesirable, normal, abnormal, etc. and when people doesn't fit in with the status quo, they are cast out and treated like dirt.

Of course people snap.

[Werewolf]

Maybe this best describes the ones who constantly make other kids feel small, over petty crap and push them to go crazy.

I would say that is more accurate. Bullying was hellish when I was a kid and has only gotten worse in the digital age. With social media and texting the torment and humiliation never ends. Suicide rates of kids have soared since we were in school.

[Figuremod73]

I believe todays teenagers are much different as well. Even the few I have had the chance to be around on a regular basis are nothing like the ones I remember growing up with. Could it be the lack of social interaction? Could it be they seem to get anything they want now? I still havent figured it out.

[jessica]

Horrible.

[enyawd72]

Maybe this best describes the ones who constantly make other kids feel small, over petty crap and push them to go crazy.

Growing up, I remember there was one kid who's house caught fire and his new puppy burned to death. I remember other kids laughing hysterically about this and mocking him when they heard he cried for the puppy as he watched the house burn.

I remember kids being treated like dirt because they had "poor people" shoes or because their parents rented instead of owning a home.

You know what? I wish somebody shot those kids.

The fact is society creates these divisions of good, evil, right, wrong, pretty, ugly, desirable, undesirable, normal, abnormal, etc. and when people doesn't fit in with the status quo, they are cast out and treated like dirt.

Of course people snap.

Wishing death on kids isn't okay.

I was bullied terribly in elementary and high school...I was the poor, smelly kid who lived on a rundown farm and never had much of anything. It was absolute torture. I remember coming home from school crying, begging my parents to move away from there. I was held down and beaten. I was ganged up on at recess, and of course the teachers "didn't see anything" so nothing was ever done. I was even shoved through a window and had to get stitches in my right arm. This went on for years.

Fortunately, I never snapped. Being treated like dirt doesn't give anyone the right to kill someone, whether you think they deserve it or not.
I rose above the bullying and became a better person for it. Half of those jerks who bullied me ended up in jail as adults.
Living well truly is the best revenge.

[Figuremod73]

I wasnt bullied much in HS but it seems to occure alot. I remember being pretty disgusted seeing it take place around me. As a guy just hoping not to be noticed, theres little that can be done. I hope those that were bullied were able to overcome it as well.

[Adam West]

I just heard one of the kids in the shooting was killed. Really sad.

[4NDR01D]

Of course not all kids are bad, but I honestly see more bad kids than good these days. Why just this weekend, I was going into Dairy Mart and an older guy and a teenager were coming out. I held the door open for them both...the older guy said thank you, but the kid walked right into me because he was too busy playing with his i-pod. He then gives ME a dirty look...I said "You're welcome!" His reply? "Eff you old man."

Nice, huh?

I think sometimes we kinda get blinded and see what we want to see. The crappy interaction with the stupid teen at the door maybe clouded the view of (perhaps) the other teens working behind the counter, serving (perhaps sometimes) rude customers, and doing it with a smile all day for min. wage.
you see more "bad" kids (the 1 teen dikhead) and maybe miss the 3 "good" kids behind the counter.

My job working as a youth worker with boys in a group home the last few years has given me a bit of a different perspective on things as well. Watching these teen boys act all tough, mouthing off to teachers/staff/adults in general, acting like a bunch of hard ***'s, and then hearing them cry themselves to sleep at night really taught me things aren't always as they seem.

And I'm not excusing that kinds sh*tty attitude either, please don't think I am. One day he's gonna say that to totally the wrong guy and get coldcocked, and I can't say I'll feel to sorry for him about that.

[4NDR01D]

Wishing death on kids isn't okay.

I was bullied terribly in elementary and high school...I was the poor, smelly kid who lived on a rundown farm and never had much of anything. It was absolute torture. I remember coming home from school crying, begging my parents to move away from there. I was held down and beaten. I was ganged up on at recess, and of course the teachers "didn't see anything" so nothing was ever done. I was even shoved through a window and had to get stitches in my right arm. This went on for years.

Fortunately, I never snapped. Being treated like dirt doesn't give anyone the right to kill someone, whether you think they deserve it or not.
I rose above the bullying and became a better person for it. Half of those jerks who bullied me ended up in jail as adults.
Living well truly is the best revenge.

Sorry to hear that, I think adults who see that kind of thing and do nothing about it are the worst kind of cowards. I've stopped my car on plenty occassions if I think I see some kid being swarmed or picked on.

[4NDR01D]

Maybe this best describes the ones who constantly make other kids feel small, over petty crap and push them to go crazy.

Growing up, I remember there was one kid who's house caught fire and his new puppy burned to death. I remember other kids laughing hysterically about this and mocking him when they heard he cried for the puppy as he watched the house burn.

I remember kids being treated like dirt because they had "poor people" shoes or because their parents rented instead of owning a home.

You know what? I wish somebody shot those kids.

The fact is society creates these divisions of good, evil, right, wrong, pretty, ugly, desirable, undesirable, normal, abnormal, etc. and when people doesn't fit in with the status quo, they are cast out and treated like dirt.

Of course people snap.

Alberta town reeling after school shooting - Canada - CBC News

I knew this kid. He was my sister's boyfriend's little brother. His dad was a maniac who abused the whole family, and he was beaten and picked on by classmates (once being set on fire with lighter fluid). He was a sweet little kid when I knew him.

[SeattleEd]

Interesting perspective.
I personally don't see much as changed since the day I went to High school or Jr High. Of course I grew up in L.A. and in my junior year of high school a kid was shot to death in the hallways over a mobile phone. Senseless.
At other high schools nearby kids were shot and killed at least one or twice a year. Mostly gang related and I went to a decent public high school in West Hollywood.
The only difference I see in the media today is that what was once regarded taboo to show in media and was actually happening in the streets back in my day is now greeted with open arms in the media and encouraged by corporations and studios.
Be it on Television, Music or print.
Just sad to think kids are still killing each other senselessly. I do hope these kids can get their lives back in order, be it the victims and the perpetrators.
Just my 2 cents.

Thing is Chris, I'm not so sure these kids ARE disturbed...I think they just have no morals whatsoever. Society has unfortunately raised a generation of kids that are nothing but self-important, narcissistic little monsters. They have been taught that THEY are important, what THEY want is what matters, that THEIR feelings and desires should be coddled and catered to, to the extent that everyone else around them is unimportant. Other people just don't matter. They see them as obstacles to be removed in order to get what they want. When they don't get their way they lash out, sometimes violently.

Look at all of the reality TV "stars" we have today. They depict selfish behavior as rewarding. Most of them glorify being disrespectful to and/or hurting others, backstabbing, cheating, etc. as a way to get ahead in life, and sadly, these types of shows have a huge following, and the kids that watch them want to BE them.

[Mikey]

One thing that's different today.

Back in the day people/kids used to kill themselves if they were depressed for any reason.

Today it's always murder or murder/suicides

[4NDR01D]

One thing that's different today.

Back in the day people/kids used to kill themselves if they were depressed for any reason.

Today it's always murder or murder/suicides

There's something like an average of 4000 suicides (between the ages of 10-24) a year in the USA. I'm pretty sure the murder/suicide rate's a little lower than that.

[SeattleEd]

One thing that's different today.

Back in the day people/kids used to kill themselves if they were depressed for any reason.

Today it's always murder or murder/suicides

I think that is all geographic dependent.
Kids are still killing themselves and apparently kids are killing each other, even back in the day.
There are a lot of suicides that aren't reported to the major media unless you go out and seek it and I'm referring to teenagers, not adults.

The only difference I see is how information is disseminated and communicated through the advent of technology, namely the internet. We've become a global village, as coined by Marshall McLuhan back in the early 60's.