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  • Meule
    Verbose Member
    • Nov 14, 2004
    • 28720

    #16
    We have 'em all over the place, they're as common as dirt here

    A clear sheet of plastic over a license plate actually does help in some cases. It reflects the flash of a camera, kinda like a mirror. My mom got off with a warning and was forced to remove the protective plate over her license plate. And that's what she had it for in the first place, she didn't even know about reflecting the flash from traffic cameras, the cops told her about it
    Last edited by Meule; Dec 24, '07, 9:47 AM.
    "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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    • hobub
      Ghost of a Dead Indian
      • Jun 18, 2001
      • 4778

      #17
      Steubenville, Oh tried this and they even got my wife. However, I feel this is unconstitutional because you have the right to face your accuser and if you accuser is an electronical device, there is now way. Plus electronic devices are known to fail.

      I wrote a letter to my Congressman Ohio Rep: Charlie Wilson, who replied and agreeing with me, stating that if when it came across his seat for vote he would vote it down. I mentioned in my letter that Wheeling Wv, just 30 miles south of Steubenville was trying to increase revenue by bringing new businesses to the Ohio Valley which serve areas such as the west coast and NYC. And in an already recessed Valley, Steubenville chose to take advantage of the citizens that live there by increasing their revenue with traffic tickets. And if you caculate how many tickets were served by the amount of each ticket, it was in the hundreds of thousands per year.

      At one point they ticketed an attorney's wife who was not driving her own car but lended it to a family member. He created a class action suit against the city of Steubenville and the camera company and won the suit.

      Here is an article on what Steubenville voters ultimately had to say about those damn cameras:

      http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/14/1433.asp

      I recommend you write to your senators and congressmen to express your concerns on this UNCONSTITUTIONAL issue. We only have power if we express our concerns to our represenatives we place in the seat. You could also feel free to send a cc to rep: Charlie Wilson to help be an advocate for this because I know his stand on the issue.

      Len
      Last edited by hobub; Dec 24, '07, 12:07 PM.

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      • Adam West
        Museum CPA
        • Apr 14, 2003
        • 6822

        #18
        So the theory of the right to face your accusers does have some credence.

        Well at least if you can't get your local government to respond, it does sound like you could win a case if you can articulate this properly before a judge.
        "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
        ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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        • johnmiic
          Adrift
          • Sep 6, 2002
          • 8427

          #19
          Originally posted by Bo8a_Fett
          In London we have 1,000s of them all over the place...

          I thought those were primarily used for surveillance by operatives of Torchwood in Cardiff?

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          • Hulk
            Mayor of Megoville
            • May 10, 2003
            • 16007

            #20
            My wife got out of the second ticket by ignoring it. It was mailed to her, along with a handy envelope to enclose her check or a date to appear in court. There is no way they can prove she received the letter since it did not come certified or hand delivered. Too bad she did not know this the first time.

            The problem with this is that she could be pulled over and have this come up on her record, but it has been over three years now, so she might be past the statute of limitations. Scottsdale Police are known for waiting in front of people's driveways in the morning to catch them leaving for work, or even handing them out at people's places of employment if they know where they work. Its big big money, so they even hire process servers now. Thankfully we live next to Scottsdale and our police have no incentive to do Scottsdale's dirty work.

            This site seems to back up the theory we employed.

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